hi guys, just wondering what oil people out there use for there 5th gens.
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hi guys, just wondering what oil people out there use for there 5th gens.
Honda Oil.
choose an oil from the list:
Engine Oil
Transmission Oil (AT/MT)
Power Steering Oil
Compressor Oil
Im presuming you mean Engine Oil, in that case Mobil 1, 10w30 or Honda FEO 10w30 is the preferred choice.
Hmmz.. if s2k, NSX and type R's are using Honda FEO... then that is what i am happy with./
Is castrol Magnatec any good...??
Magnatec is ok. The 10w-40 stuff doesn't last long because it is a mineral oil, I'd say about 5000km before it breaks down.
Interestingly, Honda FEO sold by Honda Australia is made by Caltex and is a mineral oil as well.
Edit: Caltex, not Castrol, doh'
Actually, the Honda FEO is made by CALTEX, not Castrol, and is made to a standard set by Honda Aust.
As for Magnatec, it only sticks to ferrous metals, ie steel. Your Prelude has an alloy block, alloy head, alloy valve train, alloy rods, etc. The only thing that is steel is the crank. And what's gonna crap out first, the alloy or the steel?
Whoops, I mixed them up. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brash22
I doubt Caltex made the oil specifically to Honda standards. It's more of the opposite, Honda selected one of Caltex' oils that exceeded their minimum requirements.
Oh well, it happens mate.
i thought the magnetic oil was a gimmic how it stick to metal.
It's not magnetic. LOL. It just has polar additives that tend to stick to polar surfaces. If you look at oils like Motul 300V which is based on esters, they are also polar and stick to polar surfaces. Synthetics like Mobil 1 and Castrol Edge 0w-40 on the other hand are PAO based and those are non or less-polar. Therefore they tend to not leave a nice thick film on the metal surfaces.
honda oil
how many litres of oil does the h22a take?
It's written in your manual.
stick with honda u cant go wrong.....
bit more then 5L mate (the manual says something like 4.8 with oil fitler change) but the reality after checking it is you'll need another 200ml on top of the regular 5L botte
i dont have a prelude so i dont have the manual.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
thanks dude. i didnt realise the h22 takes that much oil.Quote:
Originally Posted by jayjaydo
i didnt use that much oil i do not think...i thought that when the service was done to my car there was around 4.8-4.9 in the engine no more.
but after requiring to top it up as the h22a likes to burn a little oil.. it may go up to 5ltr or a little more.
would it make a diff to engine oil preference if u have higher k's ? say over 200 ?
Yes. Higher ks (200k+) would need a slightly thicker oil than one with half that.
Is the standard oil 10w-40 for the H? I remember the F of the same era used 10w-40 instead of the modern 10w-30. If it was 10w-40, then you could go for 10w-50 or 5w-50.
We've used even 15w-50 in a F22a (the coldest EVER temperature where the car is being used at is 25 C) and the engine has done cover 275,000km. The engine is GREAT! The transmission on the other hand............ (it is already on its 2nd auto gearbox)
feo oil is 10w30sj but if its 200k+ use 20w50 my dealership uses Fuchs oil.
is fuchs a good brand ?
so u rekn 200+k car should use 10w40 or 10w50 then? will this lose noticable amount of kw at all ?
Feo oil is more for performance but with older engines the oil is fairly thin so you will notice when you fill the oil that it will just come out of the exhaust.
would mixing different brands of oil hurt the engine
eg... i need to top up and want to add litre of oil. engine currently has feo 10w30.
will topping up with different oil stuff up the engine?
Mixing oils would cause less damage than being low by 1 litre of engine oil. So just do it. You can mix mineral with minerals and semi synthetic. When it comes to full synthetic, it is more sensitive, but in small proportions, it's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by MRH-22A
is honda feo mineral, semi synthetic, or full synthetic?
and wat about mixing different viscosity? does it matter?
Honda oils are all mineral, wouldnt recomend changing from your normal mineral oils to fully synthetic. Esp. with the H22a motors.
It's alright to change from mineral to full synthetic, AS LONG as the viscosity is the same. If the viscosity is thinner (like it is for most synthetics), then there could be problems. If you're already using FEO 10w-30, then you can change to a synthetic 10w-30 or 10w-40.Quote:
Originally Posted by vtek
Alright if you say so, but I would never use fully synthetic on my H22a. Everyone else can.
wats the reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by vtek
i had the mobile 1 before... i fink its fully synthetic. didnt seem to have any problems.
that may make sense
because my mechanic says mobil 1 is no good for my car. he said the old formulation like around a year ago is fine, but then they changed some properties of it or something. i don't know too many details, but yeah he says its no good for our cars, and he's had some bad experiences with it.
the reason vtek brought up could be part of the problem my mech was talkn about? dunnoz. so yeah im a bit hesitant to use it, even tho its a popular oil..
yeah you will have problems later on with oil consumption.
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Originally Posted by MRH-22A
I don't quite like Mobil1 as well.... Even with gold Mobil1 10w-30, which has the same viscosity as FEO, the valvetrain will sound louder for some reason.... If you are talking about the silver bottled 5w-50 Mobil1, that is not the right viscosity if you are replacing FEO.
Swapped over from mobile1 to elf full synth.. feels the same but the engine warms up quicker and oil being consumed less.
go the motul. i think its the 800 series its fully sick, um, i mean fully synth 5w40 been using it for 100,000 never missed a beat. its $55 retail 5 litre which is perfect amount for oil change, but offer them $50, they should take it! Anyone recommend good oil filters? I use Ryco's they seem ok, they're the most expensive from bigw anyway...
honda feo at $29 and such a good reputation... i think it may be the way to go.
yeah i think i'll go bak to honda feo, gd value for money
hey just wondering is Motul all its hyped up to be...??Quote:
Originally Posted by J2daW
Motul 300V is, but you have to be pushing your car at the track to reap the benefits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrkrooz
^^ ok thanks....i guess its pointless for the daily grind then..
Why use a cheap Ryco filter when you are already using an expensive oil? OEM honda filter FTW!Quote:
Originally Posted by J2daW
anybody else here had experience with motul ?
im thinking of getting the 8100 5w40, but i heard its used for newer engines, and mine has 200 000k's ....
recommended h22a is 10w30 btw, but yeah i think i'd need at least a 40 now.
i put in 0-40 oill in it and it just leaked out the engine, went to mechanic he told me it was too thin now i belive i have 10-30 and the oil has doesnt look like its been leaking!
i was thinking of using 5w40 over winter
10w-30 is thinner than 0w-40. The first number is the viscosity at -18 ºC and is a big difference if you live where it snows. Do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by FiniX
honda feo here :)
I use Pennzoil 10w30 Full Synthetic on my Accord wagon which is the slightly stroked version of the H22A in the Preludes
I use Fuchs GTO 10w40.. the performance looks better :)
FEO honda still do the job for me...
I've got a h22a in my accord and i always use motul. No problems here. Very happy with it. :thumbsup:
I use Fuchs GTO 10w40! excellent.. !
i just serviced my car done 2,000kms and oil was already empty... does anyone elses prelude vtec burn that much oil or is there sumthing really wrong with my engine?
If you have previously let your engine oil level drop below minimum, your engine will keep on consuming oil due to the wear on the oil control rings. Another cause of oil consumption is a weakened PCV valve spring which allows too much oil fumes to re-enter the combustion chamber and get burnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by FiniX
In your case, check your oil level weekly.
Is it hard to change the PCV vavle spring? and would it also cost alot to change? .. Thanks.
It's a simple "unclip hose, unscrew old valve, screw in new valve, reclip hose". However, if your PCV valve is located in an ackward location, then it can be more troublesome. But it's DIYable for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geraus
BTW, what oil do you use? FEO?
Yeh ive tried FEO but ive notice it burnt quicker.. so now im using Fuchs GTO 10w40 .. Where can i buy these valve springs from? .. Thanks for your help :)
It's a 1-way valve that is held shut using a spring. It's not called a valve spring. Just get it from your dealer or your car parts supplier. They should be universal (at least across Jap cars) as I have fitted the PCV valve from a f22a Accord on to a Daihatsu Terios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geraus
geraus: do you hit vtec a lot?
i vtec every 1 to 3rd always from my driving overall 95% the time i hit vtec :D can that be the reason why im burning alot of oil?
thats the cause. You can probly run it from H to L on the dipstick if you drive it extremely hard like on track etc.
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Originally Posted by FiniX
Yes I think so.. but I'm not really sure why it is. I ocassionaly hit vtec (only 3 times in the last 3000k) and my oil stay in the same level :)
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Originally Posted by FiniX
gg me then hehe
I've kept my car from 4500 to 7300rpm for a total of 90 minutes in one day during track and I didn't burn oil. It depends how well the first owner looked after the engine and whether you let the engine warm up before you start fanging it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FiniX
yeh ive been hittin vtec alot , i was racing my mates r33 turbo(no not on the streets at our track), his skyline was a auto..mine was a manaul it was a fair race but.. when his boost was finished, my vtec was still goin so i was up a lil bit...anyways i went to the honda dealer i asked for the PCV valve or something 43$ :) .. or could you tell me the actuall name for it again? What do i need?...
Why dont you take it to someone to diagnose the problem first before buying parts?
coz these days everywere u take it dont know much about the cars.. all old time mechanics. and not much honda guys out there.. and original dealers cost heaps
PCV valve is right. But you don't need to get it from Honda. A generic one should cost you like $10-15. It's just a fitting with a 1-way spring door in it. Just make sure you get the right spring strength (or just PM destrukshn :) )Quote:
Originally Posted by Geraus
Geraus: I just found this thread from www.preludeaustralia.com
http://www.preludeaustralia.com/foru...ad.php?t=27380
seems there's oil leak problem for 97 model:
Oil leak: Sudden oil loss and resultant severe engine damage could be the result of front balance shaft oil plug popping out. (1997)
Cool thanks :)
you will know if the balance shaft pops out, you would lose 5 litres in like 5 minutes.
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Originally Posted by Hans Bond
Yeah alright let the forumers diagnose the problem, thats really going to help.
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Originally Posted by FiniX
this might be a stupid comment..
but i reckon the 5th gen prelude is mysterious..
based on what I read in www.preludeaustralia.com,
there are some 5th gen who never experience oil loss even you hit vtec a lot.. while some of them lose 1 litre of oil every 1k...
Same thing happens to some of the 5th gen auto tranny for 97-98 model which never failed at all.. while some of them fail more than three times before 100k..
Balance shaft oil plug. Beef up your reading skills. Skipping one or two words is not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by vtek
its actually called the balance shaft seal to be exact. Theres a language centre near my work, so if you like the number dont be affraid to ask.
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Originally Posted by aaronng
Please send it over :)Quote:
Originally Posted by vtek
lol ok..
Lmao---
Has anyone tried Amsoil? I just did an oil change on my car with it. We just had a track day a couple weeks ago and the guys that were using it were raving about it. None of them burnt any oil that day. More and more of the them are switching over to it. I went from the German Castrol 0W30 to Amsoil XLF 5W30.
a friend recommend somefing called "redline something or other" its spose to be really gud transmission oil.
as for engine oil i was about to put caltex havoline fully synthetic 5W-40 in my type R....dis bad???
can easily get honda oil, honda oil is the FEO correct?