Accord VTi vs Euro Std review

I had my 40K service today on my Euro and they gave me an 07 Accord VTi for the day so just I'd post my comparisons.

Most obvious thing was the performance. Both are 2.4's are I' sure you all know but the Euro's is heaps quicker. The redline in the VTi was only 6500 and had no vtec kick at all (does it even have vtec?). There's also no midrange surge at 3-4000 rpm.
Suspension wise it's a much softer ride. Handling isn't as good and it doesn't have traction control at all (no VSA). I'm not sure if it even has a rear antisway bar. It also seems to sit a little higher than the Euro.
Inside it's much the same except no audio control's on the steering wheel at all (there is the cruise control buttons though). This I thought was a huge downer on this car as it's an option even my wife's old '01 Barina had.
The size of the car seems a little bigger at the front and rear. The rear seat room is bigger than the Euro by at least 10cm's or so. It had no handle in the boot lid to close the boot so you have to grab the paint work all the time. A big bummer in my books as I'm in and out of my boot all day everyday.

Good to know the Euro is still the best of the Accords as I've now driven them all, Euro Std and Lux and Accord VTi('07) and V6('03). V6 was the best engine wise (obviously) but overall the Euro wins hands down.

According to your bio it says you have the the Auto Euro, you haven't driven the best Accord you can get your hands on till you've driven a 6spd Manual Euro. Obviously this is my biased opinion but I thought I would bring it up since you are talking about the performance of the car, 6MT Euro is the way to go. Give that a drive if you haven't already and you would be pleasantly suprised how much the auto is holding back the engines potential.

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Originally Posted by Jegi#5

According to your bio it says you have the the Auto Euro, you haven't driven the best Accord you can get your hands on till you've driven a 6spd Manual Euro. Obviously this is my biased opinion but I thought I would bring it up since you are talking about the performance of the car, 6MT Euro is the way to go. Give that a drive if you haven't already and you would be pleasantly surprised how much the auto is holding back the engines potential.

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Yeah i agree.The manual really suits the engines characteristics.

While both of them sharing the almost similar 2.4L engine, Euro have double intake in the engine while the normal Accord only have single intake. Euro requires premium unleaded fuel to run the engine efficiently. All Euros built in Japan, normal Accord and even the V6 model were built in Thailand. The interior design is similar but the fit and finish quality in Euro is higher, I feel the interior material is also quite different between the two. Euro is even a better drive if you've tested the 6 speed manual version.

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Originally Posted by Euro76

While both of them sharing the almost similar 2.4L engine, Euro have double intake in the engine while the normal Accord only have single intake. Euro requires premium unleaded fuel to run the engine efficiently. All Euros built in Japan, normal Accord and even the V6 model were built in Thailand. The interior design is similar but the fit and finish quality in Euro is higher, I feel the interior material is also quite different between the two. Euro is even a better drive if you've tested the 6 speed manual version.

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No, the Euro has a single intake runner as well. The block of the Euro is tougher and has a balanced crank and lighter internals. The Euro's head as VTEC also on the exhaust cam, which is what the Accord doesn't have.

I drove the Accord VTI Auto for a day, and yeah its definitely a more conservative car, especially compared to the 6MT Euro.

The VTI's handling was a bit disorientating and indirect at times, although its a smoother ride over rough surfaces.
Performance was a bit disappointing, even compared to a 5AT Euro (22/16kw less, and 100kg heavier)
Steering felt lacking, there was not much feedback especially around corners.
But on a good note, the gear changes were smooth and accurate, as like other K series auto boxes. But you really need to rev the crap out of the engine to get decent acceleration. It would have been nice if it came with a 6MT box
The interior was basically the same in quality and materials, although the leather and electric seats were nice.

For the price, its not a bad deal, but I would rather get a second hand euro rather than a new VTI

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Originally Posted by aaronng

No, the Euro has a single intake runner as well. The block of the Euro is tougher and has a balanced crank and lighter internals. The Euro's head as VTEC also on the exhaust cam, which is what the Accord doesn't have.

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Thanks for correcting me Aaron. I knew it was mentioned elsewhere in Ozhonda before but I don't quite remember clearly :o

nice review but remember, they are 2 totally different cars so i wouldnt compare the 2.

also the pricing has alot to do with selling these, we are sellin the VTi for 30k, the VTi-L for 32k, now a stnd euro starts around 37k with no leather!
but once again totally different cars...

Different cars, different markets.

^ The Euro starts at $34000 ftw. not $37k

Maybe he means drive away?

if your comparing the euro vs accord both has its pros and cons and both are great cars there is no need for a debate, personal opinion is the euro has a better look to it as for price what are the prices of both..?

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Originally Posted by Jaso

Maybe he means drive away?

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Driveaway is just 2k extra over RRP.

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Originally Posted by Jaso

Maybe he means drive away?

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Yeah but I got it for $33,900 driveaway ;)

I wanted to buy Accord VTI, because it was around $32K drive away, but ended up getting a very good deal on Euro($32.500) drive away. After owning Euro for 7 months, I am glad I didn't get VTI. Engine and 6 Sp MT rock.

32.5K drive away? Thats a good deal....

Euro is a semi-respectable drivers car, the Accord is just a kitchen appliance on wheels.

Before buying my 06 lux, I test drove a auto 4cy Accord, then a V6 Accord, ( having owned a '98 V6 with a dodgy tranny) and despite the power and torque of the V6, I was surprised how much more of a "drivers car" the euro is., from it's ride to it's handling and style etc, etc...
And, silly me, I thought I could get the extra power with the, ho hum, (soon to be released) Hondata mods.

Alas, I can only dream.............................

Yesterday I got out drag by a V6 Accord in a first gear acceleration. But then I didnt know the V6 would launch so hard, so I didnt really took off hard with my 6spd euro. I just floor it at around 2k RPM and the V6 just pull away, shift to 2nd that where I should get back at him, but reach the speed limit thus I slow down and so did the V6.

Doesn't Honda doesn't offer the Accord V6 with the 6-speed manual out there?

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Originally Posted by tron07

Yesterday I got out drag by a V6 Accord in a first gear acceleration. But then I didnt know the V6 would launch so hard, so I didnt really took off hard with my 6spd euro. I just floor it at around 2k RPM and the V6 just pull away, shift to 2nd that where I should get back at him, but reach the speed limit thus I slow down and so did the V6.

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The V6 Accord has ample of torque at low to midrange, as well as the bigger power than the Euro. Unfortunately no matter how hard you accelerate the Euro with no mods, the standard V6 Accord (current model) cannot be beaten in terms of straight line acceleration.

P.S. Correct me if I'm wrong ;)

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Originally Posted by Euro76

The V6 Accord has ample of torque at low to midrange, as well as the bigger power than the Euro. Unfortunately no matter how hard you accelerate the Euro with no mods, the standard V6 Accord (current model) cannot be beaten in terms of straight line acceleration.

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I suspect that a 6MT Euro running approximately 50% more power atw courtesy of the full Hondata gear would change that.

But yeah, having driven the V6 Accord, I do wish that the engine was an option on the Euro. But no matter how good the V6 engine, there's no way I could live with the sloppy suspension and handling of the yank-tank Accord (hello Honda's answer to the Commodore).

I thought you guys might enjoy reading a review of the Honda Accord EX-V6 sedan w/six-speed manual, it's from a Canadian car site who does a pretty good job on car reviews. The EX is the top of the line model in North America.

CanadianDriver.com

BTW, Canadian prices are higher than the U.S. too, I'd be curious to know how close they compare with Australian prices?

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Originally Posted by hip

Doesn't Honda doesn't offer the Accord V6 with the 6-speed manual out there?

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Unfortunately... no. The Accord VTi and V6 are auto only.
If Acura made a RHD version of the TL, it should sell well here. :)

Different cars for different markets.

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Originally Posted by Euro76

The V6 Accord has ample of torque at low to midrange, as well as the bigger power than the Euro. Unfortunately no matter how hard you accelerate the Euro with no mods, the standard V6 Accord (current model) cannot be beaten in terms of straight line acceleration.

P.S. Correct me if I'm wrong ;)

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It must be damn close over the 1/4 - some of the tests I have seen for the V6 show a 1/4 time of 15.5 which is pretty much dead even with what Euro owners are achieving stock. Obviously that is a manual euro versus an auto v6... auto euro vs auto v6 is no contest.

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Originally Posted by hip

I thought you guys might enjoy reading a review of the Honda Accord EX-V6 sedan w/six-speed manual, it's from a Canadian car site who does a pretty good job on car reviews. The EX is the top of the line model in North America.

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I like the 50 series 17inch wheels too. Too bad they don't offer the wheel package here, much better than our current 16inch ones.

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Originally Posted by yfin

It must be damn close over the 1/4 - some of the tests I have seen for the V6 show a 1/4 time of 15.5 which is pretty much dead even with what Euro owners are achieving stock. Obviously that is a manual euro versus an auto v6... auto euro vs auto v6 is no contest.

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Yeah, the advantage of the V6 is that all you need to do is floor the throttle and everyone including my grandma can pull close to 15.5. For the Euro, it'll take a good driver as only the manual gets 15s.

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Originally Posted by EuroDude

^ The Euro starts at $34000 ftw. not $37k

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what would i know im only a dealer and was quoting the RRP on road for auto and metallic.

http://img.search.com/thumb/1/12/Art...Daley-book.jpg

Yep, sure sounds like a car dealer to me...

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Yeah, the advantage of the V6 is that all you need to do is floor the throttle and everyone including my grandma can pull close to 15.5. For the Euro, it'll take a good driver as only the manual gets 15s.

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Do I have to launch the Euro at certain rpm? I've launched from 2000rpm but never tried higher rpm.

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Originally Posted by Euro76

Do I have to launch the Euro at certain rpm? I've launched from 2000rpm but never tried higher rpm.

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It's not only the launching as the V6 also launches from 1000rpm only. It's the shifting.

Just saw Wheels mag, I don't really trust the performance figure printed there. Accord V6 posted 7.5 secs 0-100km/h while Euro managed 7.8 secs for Lux 6MT but 7.9 secs for Standard 6MT?

Look in the month/issue tested...were they tested in the same issue together?

Theres always going to be slight inconsistencies when they don't test two cars next to one another, on the same day, at the same temp, in the same conditions, with the same driver etc...

Am allowed to mention, in this thread, that my local dealer gave me the new Legend to drive today? It feels like a Euro Auto until you press-on the go pedal. Paddle gear change on steering wheel works very well. It's a bit more wobbly but holds a good line when going around bends. Grip is amazing. Gadgets everywhere. It shrinks around you as you get more familiar with it. It's quiet apart from some muted tyre noise and the sweet engine.