any problem with fitting as well?
was told that some EG/DC have issues with this combo
cheers
Nick
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any problem with fitting as well?
was told that some EG/DC have issues with this combo
cheers
Nick
i havent done it.. but the only possible issue is with where the bar bends near the mount pts.. if thats fine there shouldn't be any issues
dont tell me u got perry's one ahahha
erm.....Quote:
Originally Posted by BlitZ
anyways... its not a copy one... genuine ASR + genuine whiteline...
anyone has first hand exp on them?
limbo has done it,
yes can be done
you need to buy d brackets from supercheap
use some washers and ull be set
i heard whiteline even combo with asr brace isnt that reliable.
better to go oem swaybar with asr brace.
how is it not reliableQuote:
Originally Posted by simonnowis
but i alraedy have 22mm sway on my car now...Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhybrid
just wat to add on the ASR for safety reason ....
i wont need the D bracket would i?
Quote:
Originally Posted by simonnowis
any reason?
i thought OEM ones is alrite to run without any reenforcement...
only reason i want to put ASR on is because i know whileline ones will take out my subframe sooner or later
yeah i wanna know the same.. but for ek hatch..
atm running whiteline 22mm too.. what mods if any needed to be done.
cbf gettin oem sway.
oem runs 22mm with no reinforcement because ek9 subframe is diff to non ctr models.
it can be done
i helped limbo instal his
just go supercheap and buy new d brackets... something like $14 and ur set...
you dont use any of the whiteline reinforcement kitQuote:
Originally Posted by |N|
the only whiteline part u use is the swaybar
the get ur d brackets
u will c wat i mean wen u get around to do it
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ricer]
wat should i ask for when i go supercheap?Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhybrid
any name or terms or size i should ask for?
and does that also mean i cant put on the whiteline tie bar that i currently have?
u wont need tie bar
for the bracket just ask for sway bar d bracket mount
its pretty much only one size
i use to work at supercheap... was behind the spare parts counter... so ask someone there...
u just gotta use ur bushes u get with ur whiteline kit
once u put ur asr on it'll be very straight forward...
cool thx for the info very helpful...Quote:
Originally Posted by [ricer]
damn that means i cant use my tie bar,,,, gay .. less bling
its the only d bracket we got there lol
yes, i work there too lol
which 1 u work at ricer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhybrid
hey which store u work at? if its close to me work . i probably come visit and buy those bracket...
so i need 2 of those d bracket yea?
hahaha not in ur area man
but 1 pack = 2 brackets + sticker too ahhaha
15bux i think
Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhybrid
oh GHEY ... but thx anyway ...
stevo get me the d brackets
lol
since u know which ones they are
sweeeeeeeeeet
I worked at the livo storeQuote:
Originally Posted by ekhybrid
now they renovated and its looks fully sick :D
the one next to d4s?
ricer - yeah the store is fckin hot! was darryl or sumthing ur manager?
du - wen u want it by?
yeah he wasQuote:
Originally Posted by ekhybrid
man that stores during my 2.5yrs has gone thru soooo many managers
which store u work at?
and yes dupac its the one next to d4s... well d4s is next to it actually haha
yay i got it.. not sure if its the rite one....
they only have this whiteline one...
thats it dude!
u need washers too
well not very necessary but it helps to keep it centre
oh damQuote:
Originally Posted by [ricer]
wat sort?
ummm hard to explain... but i'll try
see how the holes are long and the bolt can move any where along it...
when u put the washer on top and but the bolt thru it kinda centres the bolt coz the washer cant go over the curve of the D... get me?
oh oh oh i get wat u mean now...Quote:
Originally Posted by [ricer]
thats easy ... i can just find any washer i have .. as long as its big enf .. should do the job...
thx for the info ricer...
i love this thread... for once ppl are being very very helpful
coooool
this applies to the beaks kit too guys
ricer - at the wetherill store man
btn... ASR>break
Just came across this thread, ive got bad news if you got a whiteline swaybar.
Dosnt work with asr brace, where the d brackets would go on the asr brace, there are slight bends in the whiteline bar, which means the d brackets need to be mounted either further in, or further out somhow.
See here - http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...605#post647605 half way down the page.
You guys didnt experiance the same issues with this combo:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by [ricer]
keep reading thru the threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Muzz
u just need new d brackets from supercheap :thumbsup::D
ASR brace works perfect on the EK. Definetly will save you from cracking the rear crossmember.
Really? I know that definatly wouldnt of fixed my issues. Im guessing maby the designs different between the bars we both used.Quote:
Originally Posted by [ricer]
Mine was for the eks without an oem rear bar, im not sure if its any different.
Maby also they changed the bars design, when they changed to their heavy duty mounting system? (mines from before the mounting system revamp)
In my case, what bushings i use wont change a thing.
The issue is that with whatever bushings, with them mounted to the asr brace, the points where the bar would sit in the bushings is actually not a straight bar. There are two small bends, at the same spacing apart as the bushings on the asr brace. And as im certain your aware, the bar needs to be parralell to the hole throught the bushings.
Whiteline designed for the bushings to sit 2-3 inches further apart than the asr brace allows, the only option would be to have the bushings further together, or further apart, to clear the bends, so only straight bar is running through them.
For example:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...87/zzzzz-1.jpg
See here, the only way for me to mount the bar to the brace was to space the bushings further apart then the mounting holes on the asr brace, with the bushings closer together, there gonna be right where those little bends in the bar are located.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...7/IMG_1768.jpg
Would very much like some confirmation on this as im looking to run this setup...
for hassle free driving , purchase a ASR or BEAKS kit and use a OEM 22 or 23mm rear swaybar off a DC2R or a EK9Quote:
Originally Posted by Z
i just put on an OEM EM1 swaybar on the rear and i love it.. cant imagine how much of a diff 22mm would make wen im only running 13mm! maybe in the future wen i get bored and can afford a ASR kit!
Wat you need to do, is find somone whos recently brought a 22mm whiteline bar for your car, shouldnt be to hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z
Ask them if those two small bends are in the bar, if so, no go.
Im guessing that when whiteline decided to design a heavy duty mounting system, they changed the bars design aswell to make it compatable with the popular ASR brace. Hence why ricer had no issues with compatability.
Ricer, how long ago did you do this install?
^^Thats what id be looking for, trouble free fittment.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
the bar itself is probably 2 years old by now... was running the normal whiteline reinforcement and tie bar comboQuote:
Originally Posted by Muzz
installed about 5 months ago on asr using after market d brackets but original whiteline bushes...
Thats weird, did your bar have those little bends that line up with bushings mounted on the asr brace?
Ill look into that. Thanks guys...
I 2nd this :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
EK9 rear sway bar (plus OEM mounts+brackets) plus Beaks kit is a sure fit.
Had not problems at all fitting it.
not as *bling* as the ASR, but does the job. (cheaper too, looks great if you also get the Beaks Tie bar !!!)
Re: "It does the job" - have a search of Honda-Tech before stating this!Quote:
Originally Posted by No-VTEC
P.S. If someone wants me to explain further let me know ;).
just explain it la... this seems to be a constructive thread.. so contribute la...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zdster
have u put ur bar on yet |N|?
not yet man .. too busy ... will try do it this weekendQuote:
Originally Posted by [ricer]
beaks>asr in price :)Quote:
Originally Posted by |N|
thats true tooQuote:
Originally Posted by ekhybrid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zdster
without getting too technical about EK and EG subframe differences (larger surface area on ASR, etc),
i think what i said is valid. i searched honda-tech, and there really isnt anything there that i havent read before on other forums.
the main thing that most ppl agree on is that the Beaks kit is fine if you're a daily driver and rarely/occasionally go on track (which is fine with me).
while the more "hardcore" driver "should" get the ASR for added peace of mind.
many ppl who've had the Beaks for 2-3 years track occasionally have said their subframe looks fine. but they upgrade to ASR for "peace of mind" and it looks better:thumbsup:
dont get me wrong, i think the ASR bar is great, but double the price.
ASR is about 300-350 deliverd?
i got my Beaks for 150 delivered.
Subframes are still known to have been ripped out with the Beaks kit on daily driven cars. Whether these are isolated incidents or not, it is hard (if not impossible to say). I will dig up some of the threads, but this is what influenced me to go with the ASR kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by No-VTEC
The extra cost still saves a heck of a lot of money compared to replacing the subframe and to date I have not read of any subframe rips with the ASR kit compared to the beaks kit.
Just a few threads (but there are literally heaps):
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1150076&page=1
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1139244
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1804894
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1642585 (comptech - but I believe this is similar in design to the beaks?)
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2010467
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1857693
thanks for clearing that up Zdster.
Remember for EK
buy beaks V2
theyve added another block with the kit to strengthen it
ppl with ripped subframes had the V1
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: thats wat ive been reading lol on the v1 lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ekhybrid
Any more info on v1 vs. v2 Beaks kit...?Quote:
Originally Posted by kn1ghtm4r3
Anyone consider BSQ kit?
lot cheaper and reliable.
Got one on my integra vti-r before with 23mm rear sway
neva heard of it b4... got a pic of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by spoondc2
Not really, just a very cheap DIY kit which do the same thing as Beaks kit but 1/10 of it's price... I used it on my dc2 vti-r with 23mm rear sway for 4 years until i've sold the car. No probs at allQuote:
Originally Posted by |N|
Send me a msn msg i will send the info to you
oh i got ASR alrady so i m a happy manQuote:
Originally Posted by spoondc2
I thought you are selling it manQuote:
Originally Posted by |N|
cant resists it.. :P looks too hwat to sellQuote:
Originally Posted by spoondc2
if u r car is dumped then = no no
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...i/S7300112.jpg
if thats the case ASR>beaks... ASR doesnt sit that low :D
how about on an ek1? im lookin at gettin whiteline with asr. would that fit fine? dont track at all, so im not sure what size to go with. 22mm? or 24? or would it be better with a ctr sway and asr ?
ASR ftw!!!
Same question here, how to fit a ek9 rear sway on to EK1Quote:
Originally Posted by gbang007
just endlinks, bushes, brackets and the bar?
yea thats pretty much it...Quote:
Originally Posted by spoondc2
well my car is EK1 too...
how long ago was the updated whiteline swaybar released? coz i see someone is selling a 22mm one here, im not sure if its a new or older version. how much are they new roughly?
either way .... i would still recommand mating it with ASR brace or some sort of bracingQuote:
Originally Posted by gbang007
Just to confirm.A stock 22mm rear sway bar + ASR Brace kit will fit an 96 EK1 Sedan?
Ok since my name showed up so often i'll add my 5c.
The ASR kit is great, the whiteline brackets are crappy, the whiteline bar is very good though. This even includes the newer whiteline range with newer brackets, the quality is just not there. Their bolts are also not up to scratch. When you get the ASR brace you'll see what i mean about the quality about the parts.
I've seen the new model whiteline kit on an EK and the bracket actually was bending and this was only after 1 month! We had it on a hoist and looked at it.
All the Eks will be able to use the ASR brace along with the whiteline kits.
Note sure about others, but i would assume you could still make it work.
I know when i installed mine everyone told me you couldn't do it, but i was able to with little fuss.
the ASR + WHiteline bar is great, i've had mine now for over 6mths and very happy with it, even stopped some of the creaks from the larger bar, which i'm sure all whiteline bar owners know of and curse.
would it be better to run a stock sway bar or a whiteline with asr? its goin on an ek1.
Stock Sway bar with ASR.This is the message Bennjamin sent me,it's for an EK1 aswell gbang007:
ASR brace kit to suit EK ( all the same for EK's)
either a DC2R or EK9 rear swaybar
EK4 OR ek9 swaybar endlinks.
and you are set
Sorted.Now grab em'!!!
why stock just out of curiosity? i got a brace. just gotta look for sway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by beeza
It's the safe and easy bet.Whiteline has been known to have done subframe tearouts and fittement issues.Saying this plenty of people have the Whiteline/ASR combo and says no problem.Personally I don't care for the bling factor as I will be spray painting the ASR brace black anyways.And I don't want to have to even think about a subframe tearout.If I did I wouldn't risk installing one and just keep the strut bar.