EG Civic with B18C5 or Possible K20A

Hi Guys,

I have looked around on the forums and have not seemed to of found exactly what i am looking for or anything that answers what i want answered.

I am in the process of purchasing an EG Civic and was looking at doing an Engine Conversion possibly into a B18C5 or a K20A. I have read most threads about both engines and think i will go with the B18c5 unless someone has anything to say that can change my mind.

I currently drive an Mitsubishi Evolution VII and am looking at making a turbo Civic... what i really wanted to know is what is the best way to get the EG going quicker.

B18c5 with a turbo?
K20A with a turbo?

and which turbo to go for. The car will strictly be used for street purposes but i am looking at possible a 11second Civic if possible.

Can anyone give me some advice as i am new to the Honda's

Anyones advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers everyone, :thumbsup:

budget? and y did u compare the b18c5 and k20a? big diffrence in price for the 2...

Budget i will be looking at maybe 21k MAX

well my friend has the K20A in his EK i believe.. not turbo or anything and its doing alright so i was just wondering out of those two which one would be the best choice.

lol, do a search heaps of sh!t on B v K series engines also look in the forsale section and maybe even pm fatboyz39 since your in sydney he'll help u out

K20A turbo i really dont think you could do that for $21K max.

If you are going turbo then there are many options.
You should broaden your engine choice.

I wanna do an LS/Vtec turbo on my DD one day haha.

That you could do for $21k quiet easily. The engine reliability would be an issue though.

yeah ive already done the searches on the forums for help but still really confused about it... not sure on what to do.. and which turbo to use.. what turbo would you use and which conversion would you pick?

and would you have a rough idea on how quick the car will be doing down a quarter?

hmm... so K20 turbo is out of the option i guess LOL...

looks like its going to be the B18 Turbo haha...

with 21k b18c turbo is achievable.

K turbo will be out of the question unless you want to build it with shit parts.

goto youtube.com and punch in things like:
- ls vtec turbo
- b18c turbo
- honda turbo

etc etc... theres heaps of qtr mile vids on there so you can see just what they run.

www.honda-tech.com is the place to find your info aswell, check out their forced induction section and see what people have done before turbo wise and what engine choices are common for a turbo setup.

Yeah i thought the B series would be the best way to go...

omg i totally forgot youtube existed lol.. thanks for that heads up...

well at least i know what engine i will be using now...

any idea on what turbo to use?

i hear alot of people use the s15 one?

is there any other turbo that is bigger and puts out more but doesnt have to much lag in it?

if u have 21k to do ur car, i would suggest u keep it non turbo, get K24 with K20head in it, since EG is so light, the car will have lot of torque and power.

i have a b18c non R in EG, i already can pull 6.28sec from 0 to 100.

u had a turbo car, why do the same thing?? having a NA car can be fun, especially u can beat some turbo car at the light, then look at their faces, like they dont know what hits them.....haha

Swing your $21k this way and we'll give you an EG that can run 11's that's already complete. Full built B18CR turbo setup making 300kwatw.

300kwatw runs 11's?

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Originally Posted by kazam

300kwatw runs 11's?

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huh? what are you asking?

shouldn't it run more? howcum hassy's 165kw kseries could run an 11 in n eg but double the power would run the same time?

cause there's this thing called traction. 300kw's is good for a 10 sec pass, but that won't happen unless there's a lot of money spent on other aspects of the car such as suspension, chassis etc...

Same thing goes for plenty of other cars around with more than Hassy with 200kw+ still only running 13's. "Could" run and actually runs is 2 totally different stories.

I thought he ran 12.5? 11 sec could mean flat 11....

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Originally Posted by kazam

shouldn't it run more? howcum hassy's 165kw kseries could run an 11 in n eg but double the power would run the same time?

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LOL ....hassy has ran 12.5/..... ... running 11's is a different story.

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Originally Posted by kazam

shouldn't it run more? howcum hassy's 165kw kseries could run an 11 in n eg but double the power would run the same time?

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but you should also look at the massive mph, the car makes at the end of the 1/4.

yeh i never said hassy has run n 11 im just stating wats in his engine for sale thread, he said the engine could run n 11 in an eg.

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Originally Posted by kazam

yeh i never said hassy has run n 11 im just stating wats in his engine for sale thread, he said the engine could run n 11 in an eg.

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Big claims... its just a selling point

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Originally Posted by HeavensDVL

Budget i will be looking at maybe 21k MAX

well my friend has the K20A in his EK i believe.. not turbo or anything and its doing alright so i was just wondering out of those two which one would be the best choice.

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You drive an Evo right? Your mate must of hand it to your Evo pretty good is thats why you goin Honda? lol

id go the b18 with a turb kit. would be pretty sweet

sounds like a city that runs 12's with a engine that could only run high 14's with anything on it.

with 21k you can get a good k24 civic going - even non k20 head, and still run easy low 12's.. look at Yonas car ;)

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Originally Posted by aramiK

with 21k you can get a good k24 civic going - even non k20 head, and still run easy low 12's.. look at Yonas car ;)

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ask him how much he spent on it? Running low 12's is hard. There is a member on here with a BIG K motor with over 170kw atw in a EK civic b4 and was hitting high 12's.

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Originally Posted by fatboyz39

ask him how much he spent on it? Running low 12's is hard. There is a member on here with a BIG K motor with over 170kw atw in a EK civic b4 and was hitting high 12's.

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It all comes down to weight and sussy set up and traction. get that right and even the lesser powered engines will perform.

Running low 12s is not easy . Im still struggling to get my gear ratio , slicks size etc correct before I can hit 11.99 sec.

The K20A is a far better option then the 20/24 swap. Look at pauls EG, 12.3 - 12.5 on streets. IMO the 20/24 isnt as good.

Any particular reasons why?

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Originally Posted by thebob

The K20A is a far better option then the 20/24 swap. Look at pauls EG, 12.3 - 12.5 on streets. IMO the 20/24 isnt as good.

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Why do most of the americans do the K20/K24 combo?:confused:

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Originally Posted by Benson

Why do most of the americans do the K20/K24 combo?:confused:

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bigger displacement equals more torque, which they need to lug there fat a55es around. hence bigger engine.