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    250 vs 600 for first bike

    Ey guys.

    Got a friend getting his L's next week.

    He is considering getting a 600cc sports bike to start off with, rather than a 250cc. He assures me that he will respect the power of the 600cc in the learning stage though.

    I have recommended against it, though some other friends say he'll be fine.



    what are your thoughts.

    ps. yes we know its illegal. after more feedback about the ability to ride safely.

    cheers.

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    stupid on all counts.

    Further ask your friend if he has the money to pay for damage to other cars if he is in an accident. No insurance company will pay out if he is riding a 600cc. Plowing in to the back of a new mercedes with no insurance is going to be expensive! Could bankrupt him as well as put him in hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yfin View Post
    stupid on all counts.

    Further ask your friend if he has the money to pay for damage to other cars if he is in an accident. No insurance company will pay out if he is riding a 600cc. Plowing in to the back of a new mercedes with no insurance is going to be expensive! Could bankrupt him as well as put him in hospital.
    lol @ bankrupt by hitting back of merc.

    lulul

    silliest thing i've heard this year on ozhonda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dc2dc2dc2 View Post
    lol @ bankrupt by hitting back of merc.

    lulul

    silliest thing i've heard this year on ozhonda.
    well it is dare i say true. no insurance and you write off a merc you gotta pay for the car to be repaired at a minimum. Chances are younger and not much money to your name so it would be legal fees plus $XXX for whatever period for a chunk out of your life.

    meh whatevee.r

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennjamin View Post
    well it is dare i say true. no insurance and you write off a merc you gotta pay for the car to be repaired at a minimum. Chances are younger and not much money to your name so it would be legal fees plus $XXX for whatever period for a chunk out of your life.

    meh whatevee.r
    Add on top of that any medical injuries caused to the driver/passenger in the car and you could easily be bankrupt.

    The silliest thing I have heard is people suggesting that they should ride a bike that has to much power for most learners, is clearly illegal and dont really care that if there is an accident insurance wont cover them and it could end up costing them a heck of a lot more than a $5k bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by dc2dc2dc2 View Post
    lol @ bankrupt by hitting back of merc.

    lulul

    silliest thing i've heard this year on ozhonda.
    Why is it silly? People are forced in to bankruptcy because they can't even pay a stupid $1000 credit card bill....Most debts are under $20k when people are forced in to bankruptcy. If you don't think it happens you need to spend more time in the court system.

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    ^ 2nd wat he said.... end of the day if u've never riden and u get on the road with a 600and something happens not only will u put the bike down but if u take someone else out it'll all come out of ur own pocket...

    i know that when i 1st jumped on a 600 it still felt heavy and taht was after i rode a 250 and a 125... just takes sometime to get used to
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    Yups, it tends to be the weight issue. Ive been riding for years on my 250 and have only decided to sell it for a 600/1000 but due to my littleless i even have to slant the bike when stopping at the lights. Newer bikes tend to corner better tho, but without the basics of riding then there is a high chance of lowsliding. The best thing about the 250 is that you can learn to ride while doing silly things ie. crack full throttle mid point and not worry about much. And its not how big your bike is, its how you ride it, thats the main thing to riding. Ive been passed by plenty faster 250 riders and Ive also passed many 600 riders. Its all about technique and if you dont have the fundamentals then you tend to outdo yourself on the brakes or think you can go faster because you have a 600/1000 bike.

    Throttling is one thing, riding is another. and if your mate is riding because he wants to look cool then HE SHOULD GET ****ING SHOT like most other squidders/ L platers out there. TOOLS LIKE THIS PISS ME OFF !!

    Insurance companies WILL not pay you out, and you will be in deep deep shit. Why not go for a learner legal 600 like a ducati monster lite.
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    I think the first question we should be asking is why does he want a 600 to begin with? In most states the new LAMS rules means that you have a much wider range of bikes to choose from. Does he want a 600 because it is more powerful, they look better . . .
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    If he gets a 600 on his L's...
    He's gona be on the news within a week... Either dead or bankrupt...
    Like those guys all said..
    Insurance won't even justify that this guy exists...

    Is he that much of a gangster/sick **** that he doesn't want to be seen on a 250?
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    all good replies, i hadn't even thought about the insurance point.

    well, I think he wants a 600, because he can't be bothered finding a 250, and then having to sell it off 1 year later.

    our friends are going to lend him their 600 and 250 for a few days, and depending on how comfortable he feels on the 600, i think will finalize his decision.

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