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Shifting problems
I got a B16B engine and a S80 Gearbox with some unknown aftermarket gears in it, at least it got an aftermarket LSD.
The problem is: It is always hard to shift when it drives a while or everythings are hot, It is smoother to shift when it is raining. I changed Transmission fluid from Honda MTF to KAAZ LSD oil to reduce the clicking sound when turning corners. Until a day, I cant put the gears stick into second while down shift, it feels like there is a wall blocking it. so i try to move back to neut when i am still clutch in, then rev, then put into second, same thing, sth blocked. still clutch in until the car fully stopped, still unable to put into second. I have to put back into neut and step the clutch few times to let me get into second. This made me think it is something do with my clutch.
Another day i tried to reverse and i hold the clutch at balance point, the car moves slowly in a constant speed, but it suddenly stopped although i didn't move my left foot. It is like the balance point is some time high, some time low. then i try to put back in to neutural, The gear stick stuck in reverse, the only method is to force it back to neutural or fully release the clutch, let the car moves a bit and press it again then i can put back to neut.
In normal days, i heel toe every corner and it helps me to put in second but it is hard, even harder in every gears no matter upshift or downshift when it is hot. Tried double declutch as well, but it is still hard to put into second, feels like it didn't select into the perfect position.
Sometimes It is into second put it is not actually in any gear and the gearbox is spinning or something. sometimes it poped out from second.
I changed Excedy oem Type R clutch and release bearing when i took my gearbox out. I changed Clutch master cylinder, I change the gearbox oil to KAAZ to make it smoother, but it is still hard when hot. I changed Shifter bushings, then the second gear problem occur. I went to a GB specialist and they said it is not my gearbox although i prepared to rebuild it. They said it is something with the clutch and the shift linkage.
Then I changed the shift linkage, but same it is hard when hot and second gear problem.
Notes: I do not have front transmission bracket, i am running the trans top, rear L, the one near the cam cover and the A/C bracket.
No crunching sound, but there is a quick spinning sound when i release the throttle when the rev drops from high to low
So here are the questions
1: How to check Clutch slave, Master and clutch line properly.
2: How to check engine mount properly.
3: Please advise how to solve the problemsss
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I got exactly the same problems after changing to honda MTF from my "unknown" tranny oil... OR it could be due to my short shifter which I have been advised by a good workshop to change into JDM ITR shift linkage and shifter..
It happens randomly.. and sometimes even while entering the freeway... (very scary..) The irritating part was that nothing of that sort happened when it was being inspected by the workshop...
Oh yea.. just to add on.. The difficulty in changing gears like you have described.. happened to me while just started the engine from cold.. the weather is warm about 25-28 celcius..
Would be good if someone with better experience can offer some insight into this problem..
Last edited by squish85; 22-11-2008 at 07:07 PM.
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Adjust pedal height & bleed clutch hydro system correctly.
Replace any leaking components (slave / master)
Check all engine mounts & replace U/S mounts.
If difficult shift issue remains, it is likley shift forks in box.
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bump, i got the same problem here too,
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shift fork as in the "release fork connect to the slave or the one inside the box?
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The clicking noise could be due to a stuffed drive shaft.
The spinning sound could be due to stuffed wheel bearing(s).
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Thanks for advice, But i did changed three different drive shafts on RHS and two on the LHD. According to wheel bearing, i didn't hear any special noise when i jack on the car and spin the wheel.
Originally Posted by AE092
The clicking noise could be due to a stuffed drive shaft.
The spinning sound could be due to stuffed wheel bearing(s).
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Do what TODA AU suggested first.
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Originally Posted by innozent
shift fork as in the "release fork connect to the slave or the one inside the box?
No, shift or slector fork inside the gearbox.
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I researched for a while, and another person got a similar problem with me and he found out is the "clutch area problem", and it stated sth wrong with pressure plate.
Just wonder how would a dmged pressure plate lead to and hard down shift to second when the car is moving
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Originally Posted by innozent
I researched for a while, and another person got a similar problem with me and he found out is the "clutch area problem", and it stated sth wrong with pressure plate.
Just wonder how would a dmged pressure plate lead to and hard down shift to second when the car is moving
Very unlikley... Pressure plate problems are pretty rare these days.
Either way though, as I said before,
Originally Posted by TODA AU
Adjust pedal height & bleed clutch hydro system correctly.
Replace any leaking components (slave / master)
Check all engine mounts & replace U/S mounts.
If difficult shift issue remains, it is likley shift forks in box.
In this case, the box is comming out anyway so you can check clutch at the same time.
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i had a pressure plate problem before. What happens is that the clutch is unable to engage/disengage properly, so you get intermitted shifting problems. You'll only know if you pull the box out.
Mine a few pieces of the pressure plate fell out when the box was pulled out.
Either way your gonna have to pay for the box to come out and upon inspection then you will know what you are up for.
Still do what toda said first. It will be cheaper, if that is the problem.
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