Honda accord alignment

**hectic_filo** · 18-06-2009 02:25 PM

My honda accord aerodeck wagon 1994, When its in the motor way straight line.. my steering wheel is abit angle to the right to keep it straight and if I let go it goes swerb to the left. And to be honest my self i never abuse my suspension like driving 60+ in a roundabout or drive a speed hump at 60+... I have 2 new front tires too. and this happen for 2 months or so and i think its goin worse.

Any one can help me? Do i need a wheel alignment to solve this issue?

**Eclipsor** · 18-06-2009 02:32 PM

That'd definitely be the first place to start. Plus a wheel balance. No point jumping to any major conclusions till you get the alignment done. Make sure you get a print out of the readings too.

**TALEB TYRES** · 19-06-2009 12:09 AM

yes definately get an alginment check, a balance wouldnt hurt either.

also..Check your tyre pressues, a flat tyre or uneven pressure can also cause the car to pull...

**JohnL** · 19-06-2009 08:12 AM

Has this been happening since you replaced the front tyres? You might try swapping the wheels (i.e. tyres) side to side and see if this makes any difference.

**Mixtapes** · 26-06-2009 09:49 AM

make sure all your tyres are the same size and pressure check for balance also, happened to my mate he was driving around a cheese cutter his allignment is stuffed cheese cutter was to small he had 17inch

**hectic_filo** · 26-06-2009 10:01 AM

well yea both tyres in the front are both size there are in stock 15inch alloys, its 90-95% the thread, both of them at 32psi but my rear wheer at 16inch multistud enkei 85% thread, i had the 15 stock alloys in the front all the time.. its just happen after like 5 mths after the new tyres has been put on. Ill get it wheel balance and alignment when i have a cash

**JohnL** · 26-06-2009 06:57 PM

The following may or may not have anything to do with your problem, but it's good to know...

Some tyres pull ('lead') slightly to the left because of a phenomenon called 'bias steer', and some tyres 'lead' to the right (for the same but oppositely manifested reason). This is to do with how the steel belts are laid up in the mould when the tyre is made (i.e. which of the two belts is angled diagonally left and which angled to the right).

Most tyres have some degree of lead (even if only very slight, but some more than others), and the tyre makers use it to counteract the predominant tendency for the car to pull toward the side of the road because of road camber / crown.

Since we drive on the left side of the road, tyres intended for use in this country (and others where the left side is the 'right' side) should be made with an inherant tendency to lead to the right, thus counteracting (in some degree) the tendency for the car to pull left due to left leaning road camber (which exists more often than not).

A problem can arise when a tyre intended for sale in a right side of the road market ends up being sold in a left side of the road market (e.g. a tyre made for sale in the USA being sold here, etc), because the tyre will have a tendency to lead slightly to the left (to counter road camber found on the right hand side of the road), which in this country would get added to any tendency to pull left due to road camber, i.e. rather than counteracting the problem the tyre lead adds to it.

This probably happens quite frequently because tyres can go through quite convoluted pathways before ending up with the end user, they don't all follow a simple linear path from manufacturer to end user. It's probably less likely to occur with bigger brands bought from official distributors, but perhaps more often from independant tyre stores or with lesser known brands?

Having said that, I recently got rid of an irritating left pull by moving the front tyres to the rear. These were a well respected brand tyre that were wearing very evenly and the same on each tyre, but which had been pulling increasingly left as they wore down (the problem usually seems worse as tread gets thinner)...

**[ IV 23 VI ]** · 27-06-2009 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by JohnL

The following may or may not have anything to do with your problem, but it's good to know...

Some tyres pull ('lead') slightly to the left because of a phenomenon called 'bias steer', and some tyres 'lead' to the right (for the same but oppositely manifested reason). This is to do with how the steel belts are laid up in the mould when the tyre is made (i.e. which of the two belts is angled diagonally left and which angled to the right).

Most tyres have some degree of lead (even if only very slight, but some more than others), and the tyre makers use it to counteract the predominant tendency for the car to pull toward the side of the road because of road camber / crown.

Since we drive on the left side of the road, tyres intended for use in this country (and others where the left side is the 'right' side) should be made with an inherant tendency to lead to the right, thus counteracting (in some degree) the tendency for the car to pull left due to left leaning road camber (which exists more often than not).

A problem can arise when a tyre intended for sale in a right side of the road market ends up being sold in a left side of the road market (e.g. a tyre made for sale in the USA being sold here, etc), because the tyre will have a tendency to lead slightly to the left (to counter road camber found on the right hand side of the road), which in this country would get added to any tendency to pull left due to road camber, i.e. rather than counteracting the problem the tyre lead adds to it.

This probably happens quite frequently because tyres can go through quite convoluted pathways before ending up with the end user, they don't all follow a simple linear path from manufacturer to end user. It's probably less likely to occur with bigger brands bought from official distributors, but perhaps more often from independant tyre stores or with lesser known brands?

Having said that, I recently got rid of an irritating left pull by moving the front tyres to the rear. These were a well respected brand tyre that were wearing very evenly and the same on each tyre, but which had been pulling increasingly left as they wore down (the problem usually seems worse as tread gets thinner)...

Good info JohnL

**Mixtapes** · 27-06-2009 11:51 AM

yeah nice info !

**hectic_filo** · 29-06-2009 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by JohnL

The following may or may not have anything to do with your problem, but it's good to know...

Some tyres pull ('lead') slightly to the left because of a phenomenon called 'bias steer', and some tyres 'lead' to the right (for the same but oppositely manifested reason). This is to do with how the steel belts are laid up in the mould when the tyre is made (i.e. which of the two belts is angled diagonally left and which angled to the right).

Most tyres have some degree of lead (even if only very slight, but some more than others), and the tyre makers use it to counteract the predominant tendency for the car to pull toward the side of the road because of road camber / crown.

Since we drive on the left side of the road, tyres intended for use in this country (and others where the left side is the 'right' side) should be made with an inherant tendency to lead to the right, thus counteracting (in some degree) the tendency for the car to pull left due to left leaning road camber (which exists more often than not).

A problem can arise when a tyre intended for sale in a right side of the road market ends up being sold in a left side of the road market (e.g. a tyre made for sale in the USA being sold here, etc), because the tyre will have a tendency to lead slightly to the left (to counter road camber found on the right hand side of the road), which in this country would get added to any tendency to pull left due to road camber, i.e. rather than counteracting the problem the tyre lead adds to it.

This probably happens quite frequently because tyres can go through quite convoluted pathways before ending up with the end user, they don't all follow a simple linear path from manufacturer to end user. It's probably less likely to occur with bigger brands bought from official distributors, but perhaps more often from independant tyre stores or with lesser known brands?

Having said that, I recently got rid of an irritating left pull by moving the front tyres to the rear. These were a well respected brand tyre that were wearing very evenly and the same on each tyre, but which had been pulling increasingly left as they wore down (the problem usually seems worse as tread gets thinner)...

thanks for the info dude.. i never knew that tires can be different.. nxt time ill be aware which tire to purchase. thanks again

**JohnL** · 30-06-2009 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by hectic_filo

nxt time ill be aware which tire to purchase. thanks again

It would help if such things as 'manufactured lead' were to be marked on tyres, but of course they aren't.

It's probably a reasonably safe bet that well known brand name tyres bought from an authorised distributor who sources their product from the authorised importer will be the 'correct' tyres for the market in which they are sold.

However, even respected brand name tyres (bought at a discounted price?) from an independant retailer who may source their stock wherever they can find it, may or may not have the 'correct' 'lead'...??? How would you know?

The tyres I just moved from the front to the rear (resulting in elimination of a tendency for the car to pull to the left) were BF Goodrich g-Force Sport bought from Jax, an otherwise nice tyre and a well respected brand.

Where does Jax source their tyres? I don't know.

Does Michelin even bother to make BFG tyres in right and left hand drive market variants? I don't know this either, but knowing the French, Michelin may consider driving on the left side to be a sign of cultural inferiority (after all the English drive on that side...), so they may refuse to make special versions on principle...?