Honda Civic Type R is back (with turbo)

[mugen_ctr]

hellooo tiny turbo and 3psi boost

Hello boost controller, 15psi and ecu tune, only reason they would run low boost is due to the high compression, much like all new cars

Bout time honda made a turbo car! Vtec with turbo can only end well

[Fredoops]

Hello boost controller, 15psi and ecu tune, only reason they would run low boost is due to the high compression, much like all new cars

Bout time honda made a turbo car! Vtec with turbo can only end well

You dont see a lot of turbocharged cars with dual VVT setup like the i-Vtec (Porsche and BMW does it, but I call gimmicks, and they are continuously variable VVT's anyway, not the locked/stepped setup like VTEC). I don't actually think it's necessary..... Since VVT is helping to get fuel and air in the cylinders... and FI does the same thing... It's like having a big hammer (Forced Induction) and a small hammer (VVT), I don't know if you actually NEED both, since a lot of folks turbocharging civic engines end up locking the valve/cams to 'OPEN' anyway?


Case in point, look at the K23A1, the turbocharged K-series in the Acura RDX.
- No Vtec on exhaust side
- Intake side Vtec is vastly different from the rest of the K-series as well... it's not really a VTEC even on the intake side

[sexy_shazam]

I always thought the point of a civic type R was a quick and nimble high revving pocket rocket. Wouldn't forced induction change this a bit?

[Fredoops]

I always thought the point of a civic type R was a quick and nimble high revving pocket rocket. Wouldn't forced induction change this a bit?

it'll change... completely

[sexy_shazam]

it'll change... completely

but if its a small low down turbo wouldn't that mean you can hit the higher rev ranges and VTEC can kick in sooner which would be a good thing right? or is going turbo more problems than its worth?

[Fredoops]

but if its a small low down turbo wouldn't that mean you can hit the higher rev ranges and VTEC can kick in sooner which would be a good thing right? or is going turbo more problems than its worth?

When turbocharger give boost, the VTEC has to turn to it's OPEN/HIGH profile to allow the air in (tech heads welcome to correct me), so you're bascially VTEC'in the moment Turbo starts to work....

[EVLGTR]

but if its a small low down turbo wouldn't that mean you can hit the higher rev ranges and VTEC can kick in sooner which would be a good thing right? or is going turbo more problems than its worth?

where does it say it has VTEC engine?? it might have a non-vtec low compression engine to accommodate the turbo, is thats the case, it will have a huge tuning potential

[sexy_shazam]

where does it say it has VTEC engine?? it might have a non-vtec low compression engine to accommodate the turbo, is thats the case, it will have a huge tuning potential

Don't all Honda engines now come with some form of VTEC?

My understanding is that the Civic Type R hatch is built and designed and all in Europe in the Swindon factory right?
What would be the difference if the factory had nothing to do with the car and the entire car was designed, engineered and built in Japan or Thailand?

[mugen_ctr]

it'll change... completely

how would it change? No one has even driven it to compare it to the old models such as fd2r or fn2r for that matter

I say this would make the car much better than the old models, turbocharging has come along way, turbo lag is almost non existing in some new gen boosted cars and it will only get better......

If the chassis and suspension is well sorted out much like the fn2r as critics say, than this engine is what it needs too keep the compitiion on edge imo

[Fredoops]

how would it change? No one has even driven it to compare it to the old models such as fd2r or fn2r for that matter

I say this would make the car much better than the old models, turbocharging has come along way, turbo lag is almost non existing in some new gen boosted cars and it will only get better......

If the chassis and suspension is well sorted out much like the fn2r as critics say, than this engine is what it needs too keep the compitiion on edge imo

Having a turbocharged type R is like driving a diesel convertible.

Good idea, but it just doesnt feel the same.

[mugen_ctr]

Having a turbocharged type R is like driving a diesel convertible.

Good idea, but it just doesnt feel the same.

well u could say times are changing, but i do see where ur coming from.....the k20 is a 11 year old design, and with every passing year, new and stricter emissions are gonna eventually kill off the k20, much like the fn2r died off in Europe , but in a way, i think honda is heading in the right directions with this new move, not only by bringing in new customers but also making the type-R name more formidable in the eyes of the world, if the new type-R can keep up with the WRX or the lancer turbo, for similar or less price, than honda is defs making a good sports.