**UPDATE**
well what they said was it could be the gear cables. they tightened / tied them up went for a drive and its 98% reduction in the sound (how they get that figure, i dont kno) and gave me the car for the weekend and will call me monday to see if it is still occuring, they couldnt reproduce the sound but the jazz make a similar sound at 2500-3000, therefore they tried the gear cables.
honda also did a wheel alignment and balance for free. replaced the sub and two front speakers. no mints.
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