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  1. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDV8 View Post
    Any thoughts on this setup?

    Headunit: Pioneer DEH-2350UB (Installed already) http://www.ryda.com.au/Pioneer-DEH-2.../deh2350ub.htm
    Amp: Pioneer GM-3500T 2 Channel Car Amplifier $118 http://www.ryda.com.au/Pioneer-GM-35...-p/gm3500t.htm
    Sub: Pioneer TS-W309S4 12" Subwoofer $152 http://www.ryda.com.au/Pioneer-TS-W3...p/tsw309s4.htm
    Am I going to notice any cons with the setup above? As for wiring I'm unsure so I think my best bet is to have the car re-wired with the new wires that come with the amp. Guessing I'll have to mark the current wiring so they don't say they've swapped it over when really they haven't though.. lol :P Any specific reason for Alpine sub > Pioneer sub? I'm hoping to get the best "bang for buck" out of the system purely for better quality audio when I drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arverson View Post
    ahhh fair enough. my mistake. in that case id agree.
    Glad u were able to read between the lines this time =)

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    hahah touche. that makes it nightkids:1, arverson:34556745 just joking buddy

    idv8, try to save up a little more. nothing worse than having to upgrade simply cus the 'cheaper deal' doesnt cut it. you'll be much happier, and save more in the long run. but its your money so your call.
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    What would you consider an ideal 'bang for buck' system? Headunit is already down so I'm guessing just a subwoofer and amplifier for now, new speakers after a while (although there were 2 Pioneer speakers already installed when purchased)
    And why Alpine > Pioneer when it comes to the amps/subs? I know Alpine is one of the priciest but I always thought Pioneer made quality audio products?

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    The Pioneer TS-W309 is a good choice for a bang for buck system; provided you put it in the right ported box. Not an accurate sub by any means, but good for filling the car with bass. The pre-fab ported box it comes in is'nt too bad aswell.

    I would recommend the Mach5 line of subs, but their out of stock at the moment.

    The amp on the other hand, can't recommend. Had an old version of the GM-D7500M, gutless and not enough juice to get it moving like it should.

    If you gotta shop Ryda, look at kenwood: http://www.ryda.com.au/Kenwood-KAC-9...p/kac9105d.htm

    500W@4ohms RMS will move that Pioneer nicely, and 900W@2/1ohm RMS if you ever decide to upgrade to a second sub (it always happens!)


    With regards to the whole Alpine VS Pioneer thing, both brands are simply shells of what they were 10yrs ago. In fact, most mainstream brands are, most just rely on name and reputation to keep selling. Don't get me wrong, i LOVE Alpine headunits, but for half the price you can grab a JVC or Eclipse with similar features.
    The speakers and subwoofers are far surpassed by the specialist stuff coming from the states & europe: Morel, Arc Audio, FI, Hertz, Image Dynamics etc.

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    Doesn't need to be Ryda, just had the specifics I was looking to compare I'd also consider a custom box that a shop in Liverpool make, its for any 12" sub and fits in the corner of DC5 boots. Guess a plus side when it comes to saving some $$ is that I'm not looking for anything "showy" but I also don't just want a huge box sitting in the middle of my boot if I can avoid it. Or would I be better off with something listed here? http://www.ryda.com.au/Ryda-Car-Audi...Store-s/65.htm - Thanks for the reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by arverson View Post
    hahah touche. that makes it nightkids:1, arverson:34556745 just joking buddy

    idv8, try to save up a little more. nothing worse than having to upgrade simply cus the 'cheaper deal' doesnt cut it. you'll be much happier, and save more in the long run. but its your money so your call.
    lol so basically that means averson: 1 , love for Marty Price: 34556745.

    How come ur always directing everyone and everything to Marty? Are u actually Marty with a fake nick and fake location?

    In response to the op... none of those subs are good. JL Audio W3s are pretty good, if you got the bucks then go for Image Dynamics!

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    I'd direct everyone to Marty because I've had lots of experience with him back when I was competing in SQ comps
    to see all of my build, checkout


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    If he was closer I'd consider it

    This is the custom enclosure I was considering for my DC5, it holds a 12" sub and fits snug in the corner and can be attached etc

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    IDV8, perhaps i should ask you, what do you want from your sub setup? deep bass, a sub that will play everything nice, a small enclosure, or a ground pounding SPL setup? Choose your goal first i suppose.

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    I'd say a sub that'll play everything nice, good quality sound but not an annoyingly deep bass where everything rattles etc I guess - best I can explain it I think :P A small enclosure would be good too as I use my boot from time to time. Right now with the stock sound have to have it up pretty loud to hear any solid bass to a song so it always just seems like somethings missing.

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    For an nice, accurate sub that plays well in a sealed box you can start cheap (under $200): Orion Cobalt, Arc Audio KS, Clarion SRW, Kenwood XW122(2/4).

    Step it up to roughly $400, you get subs that rise above the chainstore norm such as Image Dynamics IDQ, Morel Ultimo SC, Hertz HX300, Arc Audio ARC12.

    Not a definitive list, but just subs i've installed/listened to that work well in a sealed enclosure.

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