New CR-Z

[denot]

lexus should have a better build than any honda! it is LEXUS!

with same price as Honda

[hondar]

i dont know whats in the honda australia / govt thinking.. i saw the price and shake my head.

i was having a chat with murakami-san from js racing and was told this car is selling very well in japan because japanese govt gives heaps of incentives to buy hybrid car that makes the car cheaper than conventional car. for us we were slapped with premium price to go green. go figure!

they should include as part of their carbon reduction scheme to give incentives for us to buy green car as well since car emit carbon (heaps of cars in australia)

i know dealers wants to make money like any other business but just not seeing how people will be buying this car in this period where everyone is cautious how the $$$ is spend.

[Philip Lee]

i dont know whats in the honda australia / govt thinking.. i saw the price and shake my head.

i was having a chat with murakami-san from js racing and was told this car is selling very well in japan because japanese govt gives heaps of incentives to buy hybrid car that makes the car cheaper than conventional car. for us we were slapped with premium price to go green. go figure!

they should include as part of their carbon reduction scheme to give incentives for us to buy green car as well since car emit carbon (heaps of cars in australia)

i know dealers wants to make money like any other business but just not seeing how people will be buying this car in this period where everyone is cautious how the $$$ is spend.

Japanese govt would want to help their car industry by giving incentive for hybrid cars which at the moment are most Japanese made.

we don't produce any hybrids so why would our govt wants to help foreign companies.

unfortunately with most things green/organic. you have to pay a premium for them.

lexus should have a better build than any honda! it is LEXUS!

with same price as Honda

but the cheapest CT200H isn't that much more exxy than the CRZ lux. with similar performance, 2 extra doors and usable rear seats. and it's a godamn LEXUS!!!

(i know i know, one is a "sports car" while one is a hatch. we have to pay premium for "sports car")

[Mikecivic78]

i would have to say the manual is by far the most fun to drive! did a few laps on my own flat out around the track yesterday and that car was made for twists and turns. It even has a better exhaust note than a civic 1.8, jazz ect.

It is similar to the old CRX's, the were not high powered cars but a hell of alot of fun to drive and good on fuel. Sat nav/ glass roof and leather dont really bother me so the manual sports would be my pic if i ever was to buy one.

A true spruik if I ever heard one.

Similar to old CRX how? Old CRX was about power vs weight, on paper this car is not that at all. A big rasberry for that one!

i would have to say the manual is by far the most fun to drive! when is it not?

Better exhaust note than Jazz and 1.8 Civic? LMAO, those car's notes are crap. What about comparing it to a b16a CRX?

The car was made for twists and turns: out of the factory it will be a predictable understeerer like almost all production cars (type Rs and STIs being noteable exceptions). Without aftermarket sway bars and lowering springs cars like WRX and DC5 aren't that hot in the twisties. I seriously doubt this car is any different.

What about a balanced review that mentions both cons as well as pros my car dealer friend?



p.s. I've probably opened a can of worms here, but I feel it's my time for a rant, so let the shit storm begin!

[denot]

I've probably opened a can of worms here, but I feel it's my time for a rant, so let the shit storm begin!

have you ever drive one? or have you even seen one yet? Please test drive one before you can comment how "crap" it is. Thanks

[Mikecivic78]

have you ever drive one? or have you even seen one yet? Please test drive one before you can comment how "crap" it is. Thanks

I never said the CRZ was crap. I said the jazz's exhaust note is crap. Pls don't misquote me.

[denot]

I never said the CRZ was crap. I said the jazz's exhaust note is crap. Pls don't misquote me.

alrite cool!

[UNLS1]

A true spruik if I ever heard one.

Similar to old CRX how? Old CRX was about power vs weight, on paper this car is not that at all. A big rasberry for that one!

i would have to say the manual is by far the most fun to drive! when is it not?

Better exhaust note than Jazz and 1.8 Civic? LMAO, those car's notes are crap. What about comparing it to a b16a CRX?

The car was made for twists and turns: out of the factory it will be a predictable understeerer like almost all production cars (type Rs and STIs being noteable exceptions). Without aftermarket sway bars and lowering springs cars like WRX and DC5 aren't that hot in the twisties. I seriously doubt this car is any different.

What about a balanced review that mentions both cons as well as pros my car dealer friend?



p.s. I've probably opened a can of worms here, but I feel it's my time for a rant, so let the shit storm begin!

1.WHen designed they had the CRX in mind and wanted to get a similar shape and make it fun to drive aswell as good on fuel, im sorry u missed that at training yesterday.

2. alot of people dont buy manual anymore and like autos with paddle shift, alot of the feed back was that the auto CVT was much better than people expected.

3. The exhaust not is better than those non hybrid cars and sounds rather good, well in the track it did as everyone commented. We all thought being a hybrid u wouldnt hear much note at all, and under power it sounds rather good. (sorry i didnt see u there once again)

4. yes made for twists and turns, it hadles fantastic for a hybrid car compared to the others in the line up, it handles much better than civic and jazz. Once again i didnt see u on the track driving them.

5. if u want cons then fine, i needs a center armrest as standard, i dont like CVT in any car at all but thats just my opinion, i think more women will drive it and want to buy it, i think it is priced too high.

[Mikecivic78]

Why did you delete this last part of your last post? Here it is for everyone to see.

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mate well done to u for being a die hard old school honda fan! i dont like old little civics or CRX's but i dont go on here crapping on about it, i sell the things and have for over 7 years, i am not a die hard honda fan and in fact if i was to purchase a car tomorrow it would not be a honda but thats just my opinion.
pls stop holding onto the past, this is not going to be a hardcore TYPE R or CRX.
i think most of ur comments are just forum crap to be honest, i dont care as i said i just gave my opinion as an every day driver not a hardcore fan.

You wouldn't buy a Honda, but you shamelessly sell them for your own interests. This is a forum for hardcore fans, not salespeople (unless you are a trader, and they pay to sell here). You post just to spruik your wares. Salesmen will say anything is awesome just to make a sale, that's my point.

You've been here for 6 years, yet have No reputation or trade ratings, so step the f**k off.

[denot]

Why did you delete this last part of your last post? Here it is for everyone to see.



You wouldn't buy a Honda, but you shamelessly sell them for your own interests. This is a forum for hardcore fans, not salespeople (unless you are a trader, and they pay to sell here). You post just to spruik your wares. Salesmen will say anything is awesome just to make a sale, that's my point.

You've been here for 6 years, yet have No reputation or trade ratings, so step the f**k off.

Hmmm if I have the money to buy a small run around car to & from work, this could be considered... Like I said the only thing that I'm dont like is the price... If Honda really wants to bounce back on the market, they should start lowering their profit margin to get more customer. Even UNLS1 (Honda salesman) share the same thought about the pricing...

[UNLS1]

honestly who give a rats about trade ratings? this is an internet forum ffs. i dont have reputaion?? once again who gives a flying F*&!
i come on here and give an opinion as a normal person not a hardcore honda fan. i dont come on here to sell cars either, just to give my 2c about cars coming out. Im not saying anything to make a sale, im just giving my opinion and that is it.

Normal people come on here to find out about Hondas in general. lots of potention honda future customers looking at 2nd hand and new ones. What i say is very valid indeed and there are many people on here who are not as hardcore as you so please gtfo!

i have sold almost 1000 hondas in my life and i have a fantastic trade rating....

Why did you delete this last part of your last post? Here it is for everyone to see.



You wouldn't buy a Honda, but you shamelessly sell them for your own interests. This is a forum for hardcore fans, not salespeople (unless you are a trader, and they pay to sell here). You post just to spruik your wares. Salesmen will say anything is awesome just to make a sale, that's my point.

You've been here for 6 years, yet have No reputation or trade ratings, so step the f**k off.

[Atjo]

Why did you delete this last part of your last post? Here it is for everyone to see.



You wouldn't buy a Honda, but you shamelessly sell them for your own interests. This is a forum for hardcore fans, not salespeople (unless you are a trader, and they pay to sell here). You post just to spruik your wares. Salesmen will say anything is awesome just to make a sale, that's my point.

You've been here for 6 years, yet have No reputation or trade ratings, so step the f**k off.

Chill out! We don't tolerate negative comments like that. This is an open forum, not just hardcore fans only.