Best LAMs Learner bike with comfy seating position

[furythree]

Hi guys,
ive scoured the net for a good learner bike

ive concluded that i dont want the fastest cbrrrrrrrrr etcetc
i dont care about speed or whatever. i only care about:

1) price
2) handling/performance in terms of easy to learn on
3) cost of rego - has to be <$500
4) looks decent, not like i built it in my garage by cutting a go kart in half.

most importantly, id prefer something with an upright seating position, as i dont want my asscrack showing or hurt my back (i know im only 24)

i like the VTR 250 but concerned about the seating angle, rego and the thin tyres. I understand thicker tyres are better right?

if im going to go for an sh!tbox, id prefer to keep it under $3k. that way i wont care if it gets thrashed or stolen

it will be for commutting to work. therefore i dont want to look retarded on it either.
i seriously doubt id ride enough to want to upgrade later on, so longevity would be good (unless you show me a $1000 bike that i can just throw away)

any tips guys?

thanks

[Aaron1259]

I like the CBR125r, its looks really neat too

[furythree]

but isnt that even weaker than the vtr250

im tossing up between the kawasaki ninja 250r and the honda cbr250 second hand of course....i cant pass over the looks of the ninja! >< but i love the cbr
problem is. theyre both about 5k second hand. decisions decisions....

was originally going to go for a vtr250 or a suzuki but both not worth the money.

[nAYEE]

CBRs are worth the money. Theres a few on bikesales that are worth a look at. I use to own a CBR and rode my mates ninja, ninja just couldnt compare. Try old ninjas zx2rs, more HP than cbrs but very few in good nick nowadays. Just have a look around man, you'll find one thats nice.

[son of eevil]

GPX250/ZZR250

PLENTY under $3k.

[nAYEE]

You'll get bored of them in a month, same engine as the ninja just that the looks are outdated. Everything is pretty much the same, i would stick to a CBR250RR on my Ls then look to possibly upgrade to a RVF400.

[connorling]

You'll get bored of them in a month, same engine as the ninja just that the looks are outdated. Everything is pretty much the same, i would stick to a CBR250RR on my Ls then look to possibly upgrade to a RVF400.

the ninja 250 has the same engine as the GPX/ZZR, however, the ninja is EFi and GPX/ZZR is carby.
for that reason, the rev limit on the ninja is lower, and it means it is slower.

i have drag my gpx with my mate ninja long time ago. gpx beats it, it also beat the hyo GT250r.

[S2kane]

the ninja 250 has the same engine as the GPX/ZZR, however, the ninja is EFi and GPX/ZZR is carby.
for that reason, the rev limit on the ninja is lower, and it means it is slower.

i have drag my gpx with my mate ninja long time ago. gpx beats it, it also beat the hyo GT250r.

The new ninja 250 still has a carburetor but the new CBR250R has efi.

[connorling]

Are u sure?! 2010 or so Ninja has efi as I was told.

[connorling]

Are u sure?! 2010 or so Ninja has efi as I was told.
In USA, the ninja is carby, but Australian and euro are fuel injection.

[Jccck]

VTR250 is an amazing bike to learn on, it'll only make 180/190ish but they're really zippy, heaps comfy and handle suprisingly well!
And as nAYEE said, when you're a good rider and you want the most power you're allowed to ride.. RVF400s are a weapon of a bike

[Twincam16]

RVF holds it value and has longevity, awesome bike, but not a comfortable ride on Syd roads, and if you bin it without insurance GG importing original panels.

Id consider a 650 lams approved. Look at the 08+ Hyosung 650's and the Kawasaki ER6n lams version. Good bikes.