When does VTEC engage on a stock b16a2?

**ECU-MAN** · 15-02-2012 08:09 AM

doesnt matter what the ECU is, its the chip that gived the ECU the engine Identity and functionality as long as the ECU has been prepaired correctly.

If you have a CHIP tuned in the US or EU I wouldnt expect it to work the best here. If the Chip is in a socket then yes your ECU is tunable.

**IV73CI** · 15-02-2012 08:41 AM

Open up the ECU and see if you can see the ROM chip. if its removable, then u can upgrade the chip to a S200 socketed.

otherwise - get an OEM (non modified rom chip) and put it back in, then install a S300 kit onto your ECU ..

fcuck that superchip off and hondata ftw!

**VT3C** · 15-02-2012 02:32 PM

PM ECU-MAN and ask if he can sort you out with an AUS P30 programmed chip then throw that superchip thing in the bin.

the stock ECU programs are quite good for i/h/e mods.. you will get MORE power with a good tuner and a programable ECU but these ECU's arent bad on their own. He who bags a VAFC has obviously never used one - they are quite good for what they are - again they are not as good as a full stand-alone ECU but bang-per-buck i've seen 15-20WHP gains on stock EK4 that just had a pod filter and cat back.

FYi:

OBD-0 JDM B16A gen1 ECU: (cant remember the code) VTEC 4800 revcut ~8200. (VTEC here already ? you're early, dinner still in the oven)
OBD-1 JDM B16A gen2 ECU: P30-J00xxxx VTEC 5800 revcut ~8400 (where the hell is VTEC? hello ?? BRAAP ohh there it is)
OBD-1 AUS B16A2 ECU: P30-G00xxxx VTEC 5500 revcut ~8200

MODS: can we add a sticky to the technical section that says "Accept the fact that a stand-alone programable ECU is always going to have more potential to make power over a piggy-back ECU or stock ECU... if you have a competant tuner at your disposal"

perhaps this would help not having to have the same posts and arguments each time anyone asks a question about ECU's LOL.

**seancrx9** · 15-02-2012 09:55 PM

so.... you mean this Superchip has been installed and has downgraded the power and response of my car? So standard ecu will be better off?
What's a Hondata s300 insatlled and tuned going to cost?

**rubixcube** · 15-02-2012 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by seancrx9

so.... you mean this Superchip has been installed and has downgraded the power and response of my car? So standard ecu will be better off?
What's a Hondata s300 insatlled and tuned going to cost?

500 ish for the s300, 50-100 to install it, $150-200/hr to tune it. Best to install heaps of mods and tune it once rather than adding and tuning and adding and tuning etc

**IV73CI** · 16-02-2012 06:46 AM

Dude ..

The price you quote is maybe a 2nd hand item and the tuning for that price is only a top up tune.

S300 new =800-1100 with ecu/s300 onboard.

Full tune = 400+

**ECU-MAN** · 16-02-2012 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by seancrx9

so.... you mean this Superchip has been installed and has downgraded the power and response of my car? So standard ecu will be better off?
What's a Hondata s300 insatlled and tuned going to cost?

yes possibly the tune of your superchip could be degrading your performance. To prove it you would have to go to a Dyno Day and do two runs, 1 with the SuperChip and another with a stock ROM.

you can simply remove the SuperChip chip and insert a stock ROM.

**IV73CI** · 16-02-2012 10:49 AM

^^ what he said.

RUN1 = Supacrap Chip
RUN2 = OEM Chip

OR borrow someones P30 ECU and do the 2nd run using that ecu and see what the power differences are.

Power runs are generally around 60-80 depends on whos running the show!

**seancrx9** · 16-02-2012 11:35 AM

lol....!

Thanks guys for great information. This thread helped me identify that I had a chip in the car that I didn't even realise even though it
might even be supcrap! bahaha....
To be honest. It drives excellent and pulls really hard. @5000rpm and keeps going to 8000rpm
Definately need to do a dyno run.
Still love my D series ZC in my gen2

**VT3C** · 16-02-2012 11:47 AM

the chip might be OK, it might be really good.. but as it's unknown and from a generic brand that deals with everything from Diesel Landcruisers to Fiats, i would have little faith in it.

I am surprised nobody out there has done an ECU comparo in a climate controlled dyno booth.. same car, same conditions, same mods.. only difference is different ECU's.. 3 runs per ecu averaged out.. a stock AUS P30 versus a JDM P30 versus sPoon N1 versus Mugen N1 etc.