It's Official: FN2R no more

**trism** · 04-03-2012 10:06 AM

yeah Gas Research is still around, but most of their gear ends up on V8s

**Bludger** · 04-03-2012 10:10 AM

gas is still a fossil fuel though.

I'm talking about oils they extract from food and shizz

**hondapop** · 04-03-2012 11:19 AM

Ethanol (plant based) is getting quite big in the US. It's biggest problem as far as it's use in motor vehicles is it's absorbtion (contamination) of water (condensation in the vehicles tank etc or groundwater entering storage tanks) and the fact that it needs about twice the volume of liquid to produce equivalent energy.

Would solve the pollution problem virtually O/night if those problems could be solved.

**Fredoops** · 04-03-2012 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by hondapop

Ethanol (plant based) is getting quite big in the US. It's biggest problem as far as it's use in motor vehicles is it's absorbtion (contamination) of water (condensation in the vehicles tank etc or groundwater entering storage tanks) and the fact that it needs about twice the volume of liquid to produce equivalent energy.

Would solve the pollution problem virtually O/night if those problems could be solved.

Mid west uses corn to convert to ethanol.

Problem: the energy input to produce is more than the energy content of the ethanol produced. And uses more energy than refining crude oil on a per liter basis, sugar came ethanol is slightly better but is still a negative.

1st world Problem: people are starving in Africa and y'all use food to burn?!

Problem: energy used I refine those thing still came off the ground.

**Bludger** · 05-03-2012 01:10 AM

so we need to find energy that comes from above, not from below.

**hondapop** · 05-03-2012 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Bludger

so we need to find energy that comes from above, not from below.

This is where we need a pic of millions of car owners with their hands raised to the heavens, pleading for mercy.

**Fredoops** · 05-03-2012 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by hondapop

This is where we need a pic of millions of car owners with their hands raised to the heavens, pleading for mercy.

.... Or we find some non-conventional energy generation technology...
Cold fusion or Thorium fission comes to mind.

**trism** · 05-03-2012 11:48 AM

Just need hydrogen power to come about.

Be it directly powered, or powering a hybrid.

**hondapop** · 05-03-2012 01:27 PM

Like I alluded to before, instead of BBWWWwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaah BBWWWwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH it'll all be HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

**Fredoops** · 05-03-2012 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by hondapop

Like I alluded to before, instead of BBWWWwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaah BBWWWwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH it'll all be HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

More like whrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllllllll lllll whrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiioollllllllllllll

In all seriousness, I don't mind all electric, 1000Nm @ all rpm sounds sweeetttttt

**hondapop** · 05-03-2012 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Fredoops

More like whrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllllllll lllll whrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiioollllllllllllll

In all seriousness, I don't mind all electric, 1000 @ all rpm sounds sweeetttttt

We'll have to have some way of telling what make it is. For the rest of us, we'd better start recording our exhaust tones so we can play them to ourselves via our sound systems.