Which R?

[EKVTIR-T]

Honda are absolute shit off vtec torque less pieces of crap

Thats not an issue of Hondas design,its physics in general.

Theres only so much torque an NA 1600/1800/2000cc can produce while staying a well mannered everyday engine.

[RtN]

and.. my dc2r only uses about 7L/100KMs WIN, doesn't burn oil WIN, nothing breaks down WIN. Cost effective car as well.

[Indie]

and.. my dc2r only uses about 7L/100KMs WIN, doesn't burn oil WIN, nothing breaks down WIN. Cost effective car as well.

Exactly. The DC2R does serve a purpose. It's a compromise between everyday usability and practicality, and performance.

That's why I prefer the S2k. It's uncompromising in every way.

[DakDak]

Honda are absolute shit off vtec torque less pieces of crap

Not all are without torque. The majority is though when stock.
JDM S15 Spec R is gutless too when stock

[GSi_PSi]

Honda are absolute shit off vtec torque less pieces of crap

Really?.... you seem like those kids that had nugget cars all his life, and as soon as you
jump in a turbo car you think its the fastest thing in the world... Seen it too too often
Ive got a MY04 WRX and off boost its painfully anooying to
drive. My CRX K20 would leave it for dead ... Responsive N/A > Laggy turbo
If i was to build a track car it would be a K series Honda 100%, way more challenging and fun to drive.

[JDM EP3]

I raced this guy from my work who kept saying his silvia q's s13 would blow away my dc4 gsi. So we went down to our friends farm that has its own "private road" and beat him repeatedly. Nevertheless he shut up and never mentioned Hondas were a torque less pos and nowadays with the k20a torque I couldnt care what no turbo knob says.

[GSi_PSi]

Not all are without torque. The majority is though when stock.
JDM S15 Spec R is gutless too when stock

I can confirm this, dailying one at the moment...

What is even gutless is the NA S15, now that thing is a nugget

[Indie]

Really?.... you seem like those kids that had nugget cars all his life, and as soon as you
jump in a turbo car you think its the fastest thing in the world... Seen it too too often
Ive got a MY04 WRX and off boost its painfully anooying to
drive. My CRX K20 would leave it for dead ... Responsive N/A > Laggy turbo
If i was to build a track car it would be a K series Honda 100%, way more challenging and fun to drive.

On the one hand, you're saying that the K series is more challenging to drive, but surely keeping a 'laggy turbo' on boost is part of the challenge of driving a turbo car rather than a 'responsive N/A'.

[GSi_PSi]

On the one hand, you're saying that the K series is more challenging to drive, but surely keeping a 'laggy turbo' on boost is part of the challenge of driving a turbo car rather than a 'responsive N/A'.

With that statement i was refering to K series honda ie FWD..... as all the K series swapped or stock cars seem to be. Look at the the BYP DC2R, EG everyone said
no FWD could come close the 1 minute barrier at Wakefield park, look at them now..... they challenged everyone and proved them wrong.
I dunno how much bang for buck you can get honestly, talking to Lotus elise owners who have spent close to 300K and getting 1:03 times same as the NA EG K24
its just mindblowing.

[EKVTIR-T]

Really?.... you seem like those kids that had nugget cars all his life, and as soon as you
jump in a turbo car you think its the fastest thing in the world... Seen it too too often
Ive got a MY04 WRX and off boost its painfully anooying to
drive. My CRX K20 would leave it for dead ... Responsive N/A > Laggy turbo
If i was to build a track car it would be a K series Honda 100%, way more challenging and fun to drive.

Youre right. He recently got a gc8 rex and suddenly thinks its a ferrari and all others are below lol

[ericl33]

dc2r has more than enough for daily duties in stock form.

sure, if you want a monster, how on earth can you use it sensibly on the street?

[SajadEG]

DC5r cos it looks the best out of the three.

Personally, with that money i'd build an EG-K series