Stiff shock, soft springs and Big sway bar, possible?

[altong0840]

Hi there, i just wonder Stiff shock, soft springs and Big sway bar provide comfortable and handling? i heard that the european car do this kind of setup.

any thought if i use tanabe spring/stock springs on skunk2 or koni yellow shock on my teg?

cheez

[gbpracing]

Hi there, i just wonder Stiff shock, soft springs and Big sway bar provide comfortable and handling? i heard that the european car do this kind of setup.

any thought if i use tanabe spring/stock springs on skunk2 or koni yellow shock on my teg?

cheez

1. Are you going to run your car super low? (ie, 2 to 3” ground clearance), if the answer is yes you will need high spring rates to prevent bottoming out and bump stops set to limit the suspension movement in order to maintain some ground clearance at full bump.
2. Are you committed to running super short shock absorbers? If the answer is yes then again you will have to run high spring rates in order to prevent the unit bottoming out over the smallest of
bumps.
3. Do you want more than 3” to 4” suspension travel? If yes, then you will need a shock absorber with a corresponding amount of travel unless you incline the unit at
an angle or build mechanical advantage into the system.
4. Do you want a comfortably soft ride? Then you will need relatively low spring rates along with adequate amounts of travel to allow the suspension to work off the bumps.
5. Do you want to reduce bump thump (The tremendous crash felt if you hit a pothole)? If you are using coil-over-shocks you won’t reduce it because the bushes in the shock eyes have to be very stiff to withstand the constant compressive load they experience from the moment you fit them (some shockers are fitted with Rose bearings which give the harshest ride of all).

I did have Ibach lowering springs with 5 way adjustable Tokico shocks that worked a treat on my street LS Integra. Set on 3 for the street and set to 5 for the track bloody not bad.
I use Koni yellow with coil-overs on my dedicated track car and have not changed them for the 12 years of racing.

[curtis265]

That's the sort of setup i'm running. i'm not dumped though.

You should probably run softer shocks as they also have a significant effect on balance between comfort and handling

your setup sounds alright

[altong0840]

1. Are you going to run your car super low? (ie, 2 to 3” ground clearance), if the answer is yes you will need high spring rates to prevent bottoming out and bump stops set to limit the suspension movement in order to maintain some ground clearance at full bump.
2. Are you committed to running super short shock absorbers? If the answer is yes then again you will have to run high spring rates in order to prevent the unit bottoming out over the smallest of
bumps.
3. Do you want more than 3” to 4” suspension travel? If yes, then you will need a shock absorber with a corresponding amount of travel unless you incline the unit at
an angle or build mechanical advantage into the system.
4. Do you want a comfortably soft ride? Then you will need relatively low spring rates along with adequate amounts of travel to allow the suspension to work off the bumps.
5. Do you want to reduce bump thump (The tremendous crash felt if you hit a pothole)? If you are using coil-over-shocks you won’t reduce it because the bushes in the shock eyes have to be very stiff to withstand the constant compressive load they experience from the moment you fit them (some shockers are fitted with Rose bearings which give the harshest ride of all).

I did have Ibach lowering springs with 5 way adjustable Tokico shocks that worked a treat on my street LS Integra. Set on 3 for the street and set to 5 for the track bloody not bad.
I use Koni yellow with coil-overs on my dedicated track car and have not changed them for the 12 years of racing.

thz for the input, i am just looking for sth like 2 inch drop not sth hella flush,

[altong0840]

That's the sort of setup i'm running. i'm not dumped though.

You should probably run softer shocks as they also have a significant effect on balance between comfort and handling

your setup sounds alright

so koni yellow or skunk2 sport will be too stiff? because i am running tein s.tech + skunk2 sport shock, it stiff like hell, i though it would be the spring too stiff for my daily, i need to drive to work thru the bad bad uneven road everyday

[stndrd]

1. Are you going to run your car super low? (ie, 2 to 3” ground clearance), if the answer is yes you will need high spring rates to prevent bottoming out and bump stops set to limit the suspension movement in order to maintain some ground clearance at full bump.
2. Are you committed to running super short shock absorbers? If the answer is yes then again you will have to run high spring rates in order to prevent the unit bottoming out over the smallest of
bumps.
3. Do you want more than 3” to 4” suspension travel? If yes, then you will need a shock absorber with a corresponding amount of travel unless you incline the unit at
an angle or build mechanical advantage into the system.
4. Do you want a comfortably soft ride? Then you will need relatively low spring rates along with adequate amounts of travel to allow the suspension to work off the bumps.
5. Do you want to reduce bump thump (The tremendous crash felt if you hit a pothole)? If you are using coil-over-shocks you won’t reduce it because the bushes in the shock eyes have to be very stiff to withstand the constant compressive load they experience from the moment you fit them (some shockers are fitted with Rose bearings which give the harshest ride of all).

I did have Ibach lowering springs with 5 way adjustable Tokico shocks that worked a treat on my street LS Integra. Set on 3 for the street and set to 5 for the track bloody not bad.
I use Koni yellow with coil-overs on my dedicated track car and have not changed them for the 12 years of racing.

You must spread some reputation.

Very well explained

[gbpracing]

so koni yellow or skunk2 sport will be too stiff? because i am running tein s.tech + skunk2 sport shock, it stiff like hell, i though it would be the spring too stiff for my daily, i need to drive to work thru the bad bad uneven road everyday

For all your street guys shockers and springs are critical to get right for safety reasons... I did all the lowering stuff my LS was 3" lower looked mean but I had the right spring shocker combo and I could adjust the settings to suit the conditions. Get it wrong and you just might find you and your car leaving the road just when you dont want too... particularly if doing 100kph and you hit a bump or dip in the road. Ask your professional suspension guys for advice, its not worth the risk to get it wrong.

[Ðerp]

I'm running Eibarch progressive springs, koni yellows (set to halfway) and larger swaybars (27 front and a 25 rear) on my Dc4 it's a comfortable enough for a daily and it can take whatever my tyres can handle in the hills, I don't see what all the hype is about people running Stiff as coilovers on there dailys

[gbpracing]

I'm running Eibarch progressive springs, koni yellows (set to halfway) and larger swaybars (27 front and a 25 rear) on my Dc4 it's a comfortable enough for a daily and it can take whatever my tyres can handle in the hills, I don't see what all the hype is about people running Stiff as coilovers on there dailys

Eibach are excellent I had them on my road LS sounds like you have a good set up for your needs..

[senna]

Seems the Integra crowd are getting the idea....now for the civic drivers....lol