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  1. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurnob88 View Post
    Just buy the proved and tested koni yellow with ground control.
    It gives u easy control of shock damping and u can customise spring rates from the eBay sellers. So ask for ur special spring rate and adjust shocks to ur liking
    agreed. im running konis and kings.. and the only thing i would consider changing is springrate. so konis and your exact choice of spring rate would be perfect setup.. keep coilovers to the track only. theres not enough pros to outweigh the cons for street use..

  2. #50
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    GAB SS for street/weekend twisties.

  3. #51
    Perfect for street imo
    Last edited by zarko; 09-09-2013 at 06:54 PM.

  4. #52
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    chop springs
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  5. #53
    D2s are ****, stupid spring rates with hopeless dampers/valvings! Just like the rest of those like it aren't worth considering... Yes I've had them in the past with my EG... Previous to that I had Koni Yellows with KG/mm Springs [DR spec I think] let the car handle much better in all condition AND inspire confidence that the tyres will remain in contact not float over bumps...

    Sure they give you that 'stiff' ride but hell if you believe that better suspension performance equates to having your pelvis crushed, bones rattled, car riding like a rodeo ride and banging your head on the roof of your car then I've got nothing to say...

    You want control which gives you confidence not simply force and stiffness...

    Spring rates you don't need to go so hard for pure street use, for say an EG/EK/EM </~4kg/mm and </~3kg/mm proportionally will be enough =) You use swaybars, suspension bushing and suspension/wheel alignment to increase the suspension performance without having to destroy ride and comfort in the process.
    Last edited by DreadAngel; 10-10-2012 at 12:37 AM.
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  6. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadAngel View Post
    D2s are ****, stupid spring rates with hopeless dampers/valvings! Just like the rest of those like it aren't worth considering... Yes I've had them in the past with my EG... Koni Yellows with KG/mm Springs [DR spec I think] let the car handle much better in all condition AND inspire confidence that the tyres will remain in contact not float over bumps...

    Sure they give you that 'stiff' ride but hell if you believe that better suspension performance equates to having your pelvis crushed, bones rattled, car riding like a rodeo ride and banging your head on the roof of your car then I've got nothing to say...

    You want control which gives you confidence not simply force and stiffness...

    Spring rates you don't need to go so hard for pure street use, for say an EG/EK/EM </~4kg/mm and </~3kg/mm proportionally will be enough =) You use swaybars, suspension bushing and suspension/wheel alignment to increase the suspension performance without having to destroy ride and comfort in the process.
    well said. btw wat are the stock spring rates again. 4kg front and 3kg rear seems reasonable. and yeah, basically get a bigger rear swaybar, master bushin kit and a good allighnmet. (chasis bracing never hurt)
    DC2 VTI-R (INJEN-LIKE CAI, Unknown Extractors, 2 inch exhaust)

  7. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by aurnob88 View Post
    well said. btw wat are the stock spring rates again. 4kg front and 3kg rear seems reasonable. and yeah, basically get a bigger rear swaybar, master bushin kit and a good allighnmet. (chasis bracing never hurt)
    Yup, 4kg Front and 3kg Rear if you're using something like Koni Yellows, some dampers/shocks have their own preferences too, Bilsteins seem to like slightly higher spring rates [Say 4.5-5kg and 3.5-4kg?]. But yeah 4kg/3kg I think is just about right for EG/EK/EM. I haven't played with Integras or Preludes that much yet so unsure if 4/3 will work with them...

    Swaybar wise, match the front and rear to your preference, you don't want the rear to be too happy in a FF Neutral - Mild Understeer is about perfect for me personally but some guys actually drive better with understeer bias, some want the understeer to be not so strong. Best way is to find someone with similiar setup you have/want or speak to your preferred suspension specialist and see what they recommend.

    The rest you got spot on =)

    P.S Tyres just as important Cause that's what your car is holding onto the road with afterall hehe =)
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  8. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadAngel View Post
    Yup, 4kg Front and 3kg Rear if you're using something like Koni Yellows, some dampers/shocks have their own preferences too, Bilsteins seem to like slightly higher spring rates [Say 4.5-5kg and 3.5-4kg?]. But yeah 4kg/3kg I think is just about right for EG/EK/EM. I haven't played with Integras or Preludes that much yet so unsure if 4/3 will work with them...

    Swaybar wise, match the front and rear to your preference, you don't want the rear to be too happy in a FF Neutral - Mild Understeer is about perfect for me personally but some guys actually drive better with understeer bias, some want the understeer to be not so strong. Best way is to find someone with similiar setup you have/want or speak to your preferred suspension specialist and see what they recommend.

    The rest you got spot on =)

    P.S Tyres just as important Cause that's what your car is holding onto the road with afterall hehe =)
    Yeah definitely. I like a car which has sharp turn in and oversteers thus just a bigger rear swaybar would do for me, maybe just replace front sway bar bushes for more optimal front swaybar operation.

    Otherwise yeah, just a decent set of sticky tyres (Potenza's, KU31's etc) should do.

    By the way, what springs did you use? Ground Control?
    DC2 VTI-R (INJEN-LIKE CAI, Unknown Extractors, 2 inch exhaust)

  9. #57
    In the past I've used:
    - KG/mm DR Proceed [EG]
    - RS*R [EG]
    - Tein S-Tech [AE111]
    - JIC X-Magic [AE111]

    Best one I've driven in though is definitely Swift Springs, I've driven them mated to coilovers and shocks, it really is like that said... No sag! Guess that's why they cost some 20-40% more than your average lowering springs lol...

    I personally haven't used Ground Control... So no comment on them =P I'm quite conservative when it comes to height etc... Prefer to lower the car just enough so you can tell visibly it's lowered on closer inspection, like to preserve my roll centre and I don't have to do the hecktic kebab moves over humps, on ramps, etc lol
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  10. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadAngel View Post
    In the past I've used:
    - KG/mm DR Proceed [EG]
    - RS*R [EG]
    - Tein S-Tech [AE111]
    - JIC X-Magic [AE111]

    Best one I've driven in though is definitely Swift Springs, I've driven them mated to coilovers and shocks, it really is like that said... No sag! Guess that's why they cost some 20-40% more than your average lowering springs lol...

    I personally haven't used Ground Control... So no comment on them =P I'm quite conservative when it comes to height etc... Prefer to lower the car just enough so you can tell visibly it's lowered on closer inspection, like to preserve my roll centre and I don't have to do the hecktic kebab moves over humps, on ramps, etc lol
    So all those springs came with those spring rates
    DC2 VTI-R (INJEN-LIKE CAI, Unknown Extractors, 2 inch exhaust)

  11. #59
    Similar, higher or lower by 0.5kg =), all felt great, handling was beautifully balanced with the rest of my setup =)
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  12. #60
    Any thoughts or opinions on function and form coilovers type 1?
    Last edited by dc2screama; 09-11-2012 at 08:43 AM.

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