Caltex fuel compared to BP [fuel economy].

[charliebrown]

trism, what do you mean fill to the first click?

da click bruz. use the same petrol station, same pump, always fill to same click. only way to get da accurate fuel consumption figures bruz, none of this 500km a tank garbage everyone talks about

[wynode]

Thread moved. Not really a review.

[tiksie]

da click bruz. use the same petrol station, same pump, always fill to same click. only way to get da accurate fuel consumption figures bruz, none of this 500km a tank garbage everyone talks about

I actually get close to 800 LOL

[m3ntAL_l2]

Caltex, was purple when purchased ~3 weeks ago? and now has changed to pink/brown

Been saying this for years in multiple threads. Everyone thought I was working for BP LOL! I wish I was, that way I could get cheaper fuel from them.

I'm a Shell hater because of how many pumps and filters have died on Shell fuel.

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[JDM DC2R]

Caltex, was purple when purchased ~3 weeks ago? and now has changed to pink/brown

Should be tested in glass. The bottle will break down.

Also what fuel you guys think helps max power. Eg for drag strip

[Fredoops]

hmmm which state you're in also impacts on what fuel you get....

NSW/VIC Shell is refined locally
TAS EVERYTHING is refined by shell @ Geelong, Vic , no matter what brand you get

QLD/NT Shell is shipped in from Singapore or some shit, which is why shell is so crappy up north, cause it aint "fresh"

[RenzokukenJ]

hmmm which state you're in also impacts on what fuel you get....

NSW/VIC Shell is refined locally
TAS EVERYTHING is refined by shell @ Geelong, Vic , no matter what brand you get

QLD/NT Shell is shipped in from Singapore or some shit, which is why shell is so crappy up north, cause it aint "fresh"

What about WA?

[Fredoops]

What about WA?

cant remember, read it in a royal commission on petrol prices or some shit a few year back.

[lolmclol]

What about WA?

bp comes from kwinana I believe, only found this out after they had that "shortage" a few months ago.

others get trucked or have deals with bp I have a feeling.

[mooshie]

Deals with bp for most other retailers in WA

[Fredoops]

bp comes from kwinana I believe, only found this out after they had that "shortage" a few months ago.

others get trucked or have deals with bp I have a feeling.

heres a list of all oil refinaries in Australia.

Kwinana WA (BP)
Bulwer Island QLD (BP)
Lytton QLD (Caltex)
Clyde NSW (Shell)
Kurnell NSW (Caltex)
Geelong VIC (Shell)
Altona VIC (Mobil)


and read this: Source: http://www.accc.gov.au/content/item....78bd&fn=Petrol

terminals owned or leased by the refiner-marketers
BP
In Victoria, BP does not operate any terminals capable of receiving imports of unleaded petrol. However, it does import unleaded petrol into the Yarraville terminal through a joint terminal arrangement. The Yarraville terminal is operated by Mobil.

In Tasmania, BP operates terminals at Burnie and Hobart that are capable of receiving imports of unleaded petrol.

BP does not operate any terminals capable of receiving imports of unleaded petrol in New South Wales. BP does, however, import unleaded petrol into the Vopak facility at Port Botany.

In Queensland, BP operates terminals capable of receiving cargoes of unleaded petrol at Gladstone, Mackay, Townsville and Cairns. While BP has a terminal at Whinstanes in Brisbane, it is fed by local refineries.

BP does not operate any terminals in the Northern Territory, but it does import unleaded petrol at Vopak’s terminal in Darwin.

BP operates a number of terminals in Western Australia capable of receiving cargoes of unleaded petrol. These include Esperance, Geraldton, Port Hedland and Broome. While BP has a terminal at Kewdale, it is fed by BP’s Kwinana refinery and only receives imports if the Kwinana refinery cannot meet local demands due to maintenance issues. BP also has a terminal in North Fremantle, but it does not store motor spirit.

BP operates the Larg North terminal in Adelaide that is capable of receiving imports of unleaded petrol.

Caltex
Caltex has access to 22 seaboard terminals around Australia, some of which are owned and operated by Caltex and others are in some form of joint operating arrangement with other parties. Caltex did not indicate at which of these terminals it could import cargoes of unleaded petrol.

In Victoria Caltex has capacity for the storage of refined products at the Newport terminal, which it owns and operates. Caltex also has a hosting arrangement with Shell at its Corio terminal.

In New South Wales, Caltex owns and operates terminals at Banksmeadow and Newcastle. It also has storage capacity at the Silverwater terminal, which is operated by Mobil through a joint venture.

However, the Silverwater terminal is supplied via pipeline by the Kurnell refinery and Shell’s Clyde refinery.

Caltex owns and operates terminals at Lytton, Cairns and Mackay in Queensland. However, the Lytton terminal is supplied via pipeline only. It also has access to storage facilities that are supplied by ship under joint venture arrangements with Shell at Townsville, and with Mobil at Gladstone. Under these joint venture arrangements Shell operates the Townsville terminal, and Mobil operates the Gladstone terminal.

In the Northern Territory, Caltex has capacity at the Vopak terminal in Darwin.

Caltex owns and operates terminals at Albany and Port Hedland in Western Australia. Caltex accesses a terminal in Fremantle operated by Shell through a joint venture. Caltex also has hosting arrangements with Mobil at Coogee, with BP at Kewdale and Geraldton, and with Shell at Esperance.

In South Australia Caltex owns and operates terminals in Adelaide and Port Lincoln.

Caltex accesses terminals through joint venture arrangements at Devonport and Hobart in Tasmania. The Devonport terminal is operated by Shell, and the Hobart terminal is operated by Caltex.

Mobil
In Victoria Mobil frequently imports cargoes into its Yarraville terminal. Mobil operates the Yarraville terminal through a joint terminal arrangement with BP. The capacity of the Yarraville terminal is 31 ML.

Mobil stated that it supplies its product requirements in Tasmania from Shell under buy–sell arrangements whereby fuel is generally sourced from Shell’s Geelong refinery.

Mobil uses BP’s terminals at Burnie and Hobart and Marstel’s Bell Bay terminal under joint ownership or long-term throughput arrangements.

In New South Wales Mobil imports into the Vopak terminal via a throughput arrangement. Mobil has a joint terminal arrangement with Caltex for access to a terminal at Silverwater. However, Mobil stated it does not import into the Silverwater terminal because it is supplied via pipeline by Caltex’s Kurnell and Shell’s Clyde refineries. Mobil also has a joint terminal arrangement with Shell at Newcastle, but does not import into that terminal because it is supplied via pipeline from Sydney.

Mobil does not regularly import into Queensland because it sources supply from BP and Caltex under buy–sell arrangements. Mobil has throughput arrangements with BP in Cairns, Townsville and Mackay, and with Caltex at the Gladstone terminal. Mobil has a joint terminalling arrangement with BP at Whinstanes terminal in Brisbane. However, as mentioned above the Whinstanes terminal is not an import terminal and is supplied via pipeline by the Caltex and BP refineries.

In Western Australia Mobil imports into the Coogee Chemicals terminal in Perth.

In South Australia, Mobil accesses the Birkenhead terminal under a joint venture arrangement with Shell, under which Mobil operates the terminal. Mobil also has access to a terminal under joint ownership or long-term throughput arrangements with Shell at Port Lincoln. Shell operates the Port Lincoln terminal.

In the Northern Territory, Mobil imports into the Vopak terminal in Darwin via a throughput arrangement. Mobil’s supplies in Darwin are sourced from Shell under buy–sell arrangement.

Shell
Shell sources most of fuel in Victoria from its Geelong refinery; however it may import cargoes of fuel into Geelong if there is a problem with production at the refinery. Outside the Geelong refinery, Shell can also import fuel into the Newport terminal. Shell noted that the Newport terminal had a significant capacity, but that it was barely adequate to meet their operating needs.

In New South Wales Shell sources most of its fuel from its Clyde refinery. Shell noted that it was difficult to import fuel into the Clyde refinery because it is land-locked and logistically difficult to import clean products through. Shell has storage space at the Vopak terminal in Port Botany, but indicated that this was not a substantial storage space for petrol and diesel, but mainly stored jet fuel

Shell has a terminal at Newcastle that is connected via pipeline to the Caltex’s Kurnell refinery and Shell’s Clyde refinery. The Newcastle terminal is a joint terminal with Mobil.

In Queensland Shell indicated that its supplies of fuel in Brisbane predominantly come from its buy–sell negotiations with the other refiner-marketers. Shell indicated that it could import into its Pinkenbah terminal in Brisbane; however, it noted that it was not a principal export destination for petrol.

Shell also has terminals in Cairns, Mackay, Gladstone and Townsville (a joint terminal with Caltex). Shell noted that there was limited storage space for gasoline at these terminal.

Shell imports fuel into the Vopak terminal in Darwin in the Northern Territory.

Shell stated that it primarily sourced supply in Western Australia through buy–sell arrangements, and that it conducted minimal importing into Perth. Shell noted that the capacities at Fremantle, Geraldton, Esperance, and Port Hedland were very small, and that these terminals were predominantly there for gas or diesel demand for those areas driven by mining and offshore operations.

Shell considered that it could obtain access to third party storage at the Coogee Chemicals terminal in Kwinana, and from Verve who are associated with Western Power and have tanks in Perth.

In South Australia, Shell supplies its customers through a combination of buy–sell arrangements and imports. Shell imports fuel into the Birkenhead terminal in Adelaide. The Birkenhead terminal is operated by Mobil under a joint venture with Shell.

The majority of Shell’s product requirements in Tasmania are generally sourced from its Geelong refinery. Shell has a joint terminal arrangement with Caltex at the Devonport and Hobart terminals.

For those who gonna go TL;DR, to sum it up...
1. All the fuel companies are joined at the hip...
2. All those who praise Shell is probably from Sydney and Melbourne.
3. If you're in WA. BP is the place to go.
4. If you're in QLD, BP is the place to go.

[curtis265]

I use caltex. I wonder how my fuel lines and tank look...

km numbers are all useless. You need to measure L/100km numbers for Caltex and BP so that we can compare.

i always wonder why people give their tank range to express fuel economy...