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I would save that bit extra for a K series as you will not regret it. OEM reliability for the same power as a "built" B18C.
K24 & 6 spd box can be had for up to about $4.5k (depending on condition and km's)
Swap parts, labour and tune approx $6-8k
Then later on down the track if you plan on chasing a bit of extra power, your dollar vs power gains (either by n/a or f/i) will be alot better when compared to a B or H series
Kermit EGK20A
Winton: 1:35.08
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Originally Posted by carayan
I always planned to go H2B with my EK, but I came into possession of a b18c2, and now I'm torn as to what road to go down.
I leaned towards a H2B swap, because a K was just crazy expensive and I figured why not? Dilemma is now, should I instead stick with the b18 I have sitting in my garage? I really only planned on building a quick streeter that I could take to the track and just generally have fun with and the h2b fit the bill really well, nice torque, decent power, and quick mated to a b series tranny.
Building the b18 (sleeves, cams, valve train, rods etc) would be a long winded road, but would it prove to be more cost effective versus a h2b swap? It's a bit difficult to word my plans, but I need opinions from both sides of the fence, from people who have had experience with both, and can give me pros and cons of both set ups.
Thank you.
You don't need to sleeve the B - that's a big unnecessary cost for the power targets you're talking about. Nor will you need aftermarket rods. In fact if the bottom end still has good compression (leak down test will confirm), just focus on the cylinder head and transmission for best results (bigger inlet valves, cam, CAI, short final drive, LSD) . If you've already got it, the B is the easiest and cheapest and will still go well. Just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by chez00
You don't need to sleeve the B - that's a big unnecessary cost for the power targets you're talking about. Nor will you need aftermarket rods. In fact if the bottom end still has good compression (leak down test will confirm), just focus on the cylinder head and transmission for best results (bigger inlet valves, cam, CAI, short final drive, LSD) . If you've already got it, the B is the easiest and cheapest and will still go well. Just my 2 cents.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm that seems to be the most logical choice at this point in time, I can always go K later down the track.
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For your budget i'd go the c2 with some mild cams and just enjoy it. Fun daily with respectable track potential
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Originally Posted by stndrd
K swap stuff is mass produced amd readily available and the touch of a button
This /10
H parts dont have as much type r tax though
S P A M | W O R K S
hehe.
PHC
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Originally Posted by curtis265
This /10
H parts dont have as much type r tax though
the US crowd love the H series, so things are available for the h series.
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Just about anything is available in america but you will be paying $2k+ just for a H2B conversion kit, a K series is just so much more logical
Kermit EGK20A
Winton: 1:35.08
Wakefield: 1:08.8
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Originally Posted by stndrd
Just about anything is available in america but you will be paying $2k+ just for a H2B conversion kit, a K series is just so much more logical
man you're the the k series' voice of reason...argh. a k series is the logical choice long term, thats for sure...
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I too was in a similar situation to you just over 12 months ago. To boost a b series, do a H2B or go a K series. When you take into consideration the age of the motors, initial outlay, power and torque figures, the K comes out on top just about everytime.
Dont get me wrong, i have a soft spot for B & H series, just value for money overall, you cant beat a K series
Kermit EGK20A
Winton: 1:35.08
Wakefield: 1:08.8
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^ cept D15B bro haha
Seriously though it all comes down to budget. No point talking H2B VS K-series if you have a budget of $5g and need to pay a mechanic to do the work. Save up some more money or re-evaluate the project outcome.
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h2b is an expensive build, I would consider a b20 instead if your low on cash. Kswaps really arent that expensive these days. a budget one can be done for under 10k given you do all the labour.
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Originally Posted by stndrd
I too was in a similar situation to you just over 12 months ago. To boost a b series, do a H2B or go a K series. When you take into consideration the age of the motors, initial outlay, power and torque figures, the K comes out on top just about everytime.
Dont get me wrong, i have a soft spot for B & H series, just value for money overall, you cant beat a K series
Originally Posted by dougie_504
^ cept D15B bro haha
Seriously though it all comes down to budget. No point talking H2B VS K-series if you have a budget of $5g and need to pay a mechanic to do the work. Save up some more money or re-evaluate the project outcome.
Originally Posted by tripleuse
h2b is an expensive build, I would consider a b20 instead if your low on cash. Kswaps really arent that expensive these days. a budget one can be done for under 10k given you do all the labour.
I want to do everything myself. Granted, my knowledge isn't as great as some would say is needed for something like this, but thats part of the fun. My goal is to do this myself, expensive or not..i mean really money is money, if it has to be done (and its worth it) I'm happy to do it.
I actually never considered a b20 build to be honest...
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