New 2013 Accord - same old 5A plus less power *yawn*

[walktexranga]

Hooray for leg room! 0-60mph in 5.7sec is pretty quick.

U rkn that's what oz will get? Is that the accord (non euro)? They r ugly. Give the euro that engine and it can take on the Passat.

[SPQR]

U.....Give the euro that engine and it can take on the Passat.

That engine, or its direct relative, lives in the Acura TSX (CU2 Euro) in the USA. Passat's in a different price range to the Accord and Accord Euro.

[walktexranga]

That engine, or its direct relative, lives in the Acura TSX (CU2 Euro) in the USA. Passat's in a different price range to the Accord and Accord Euro.

Who cares about price, If a euro did 0-100 in 5.7 it'd be in Passat territory and we can stop comparing to Audi a4.

Ah well won't happen.

[Jasemas]

They're two different cars
Two different audiences
where one fails in one category the other makes up in the same category
I'd rather a jap car over a European car any day

[SPQR]

I just got an email with the new pricing: The made-in-Thailand basic model 4-cylinder is $33,990 which is about $2,000 more than the Accord V6 Touring made in America. The V6 Touring is the most expensive version sold in America. The only V6 model to be sold in Australia starts at over $55,000 which is $11,000 more than the superseded model and $23,000 more than what it costs in the America (172% more expensive). Honda Australia must be very poor at negotiating international supply deals or they are just plain disdainful of Aussies.

[ChaosMaster]

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/new-c...507-2j57k.html

Not the best of reviews but some indication.

In a time when all the other car manufacturer's are looking to reduce weight, Honda goes the opposite direct. Sigh. 1.7t with a less powerful I4 and the same flawed 5AT, dear god, I wonder how long Honda will last. To be honest, I'm hoping Honda doesn't release a new Euro. No seriously, I don't want to see the Euro name plate tarnished. From what I've seen from Honda, the next gen Euro will prob be heavier (1.6t at least) and will carry over the same drive train, one that has been in the Euro since 2003... if that's not a recipe for failure then god knows what is.

[denot]

Caradvice fist drive review:
http://www.caradvice.com.au/229802/h...d-review-2013/

Not a great result, but the ADAS sounds promissing

[Fredoops]

In a time when all the other car manufacturer's are looking to reduce weight, Honda goes the opposite direct. Sigh. 1.7t with a less powerful I4 and the same flawed 5AT, dear god, .

Dear Honda

FK.YOU.

Regards,
Fredoops


EDIT
the V6 gets a 6 speed (aka the Honda Legend Tranny)

[Jasemas]

look at that boys
No headers

[ChaosMaster]

Dear Honda

FK.YOU.

Regards,
Fredoops


EDIT
the V6 gets a 6 speed (aka the Honda Legend Tranny)

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Freedoops again. But serious, email Honda this. The V6 is definetly a good unit, but I'll say the 6 speed tranny is still behind everyone else. I mean I've tried bad (think 3.0 VE SIDI with 6 AT, god that thing was dumb, was going up a slight hill at 100km/h, 6th didn't have enough power, so it went to 5th but then it thought rpm was too high so would go back into 6th and keep doing that for the next 20km), I won't call the Honda one worse, but it's far from the best. Both the FG and Aurion's 6 speeders crap over it.

[Fredoops]

Youd better of with a commodore.

/thread

[SPQR]

Sent Honda Australia an email last night: Base model four cylinder is more expensive than top model V6 in USA. No reply of course. Missed that the new 4 cylinder has less power than outgoing model and 20kW (!!!) less than in USA. Maybe we need to mount a sustained attack on the cardigan wearing morons.