My car wont start, why not?(K-series)

[Andy]

First of all keep in mind I'm a complete newb and that I've never done internal work on my car before..lol. Ok, so today I decided to replace my intake cam gear with a 50VTC cam gear on my K24 motor. Here is how I did it:

1. I took the rocker cover off and set the TDC for the Cam gears and marked the chain(however I didnt for the crank pulley, I followed skunk2's 15 minute cam install, they didn't specify this, so i thought it wasn't needed...)

2.Took the tensioner cover off and placed a pin inside the timing chain tensioner...

3. Next I unbolted took out the cam holders

**here is where my problems started... at some point the pin inside the timing chain tensioner fell out(obviously I was unaware). As I attempted to take out the intake cam gear I noticed that there was absolutely no slack, however I have never done any internal work on my car before so I thought this was normal(I thought wrong). Anyhow I proceeded take out the intake camshaft and cam gear(whilst having a helper hold tension on the chain). I bolted the 50VTC cam gear onto the camshaft and noticed it would simply not sit back into place on the head due to the fact the chain was waay to tight and had no slack. At this point I checked the timing chain tensioner and found that the pin had fallen out(I died a little inside). So I continued on and took out the timing chain tensioner and there was now enough slack to put my camshaft and gear in place and so I did. I made sure to align the cam gear with the mark I had made on the chain(I'm not going to lie; I did move the crank forwards and backwards, due to frustration in attempt to get the cam gears to align, and were flush ...keep in mind I'm a newb)

4. Bolted and torqued up the cam holders 16lb-ft(following http://www.k-series.com/attachment.p...5&d=1293149008)

5. Put timing chain tensioner back in, put the cover over it with some rtv

6. Turned the crank a few rotations

7. Put rocker cover on

8. Turned the key... cranks but doesn't start... no CEL's :'(

Any suggestions of what the issue could be(please include solution)??

I'm thinking I fcuked my timing...

[Andy]

Update**

When I first aligned my cam gears, I did notice a bit of slack on the intake cam side, however after trying to start it and then manually rotating the crank pulley I noticed the slack on the intake cam side appeared to be noticeably tighter. Also after trying the above this happened: Attachment 24594!! it seems that it is no longer in alignment... any suggestions? I haven't removed the exhaust camshaft from the timing chain so i'm assuming the intake cam is out of alignment along with the timing? or?

[Benson]

Double check timing, put the crank at TDC and make sure the two timing marks on the cam gears lines up

[Andy]

Okies another update, set TDC at crank and piston #1, put pin in tensioner, adjusted the lines on the cam gear to face each other, new problem; now the cams dont sit flush, however when pressure is applied they sit relatively flush and also the timing chain tightens.. doesnt seem right? or?

here are some pics

Attachment 24599
cam gears marks are on point

Attachment 24598
cam shafts dont sit flush :/ ?

[Andy]

Okies so I put the cam holders, rocker cover and tensioner cover back... attempted to start the car, cranked for about 5 seconds then started up and sounded fine. I switch off the ignition and start the car again cranked for about 3 seconds started up and sounded fine. I switch off the ignition as I needed to tighten the rocker cover, attempt to start the car again... cranks but now does not start! arrrgh!

ozhonda isnt letting me upload a video of what it sounds like but you can imagine an engine that continuously cranks but doesn't start up, :'( any ideas?


CELS:
-P2185 ECT high voltage
-P0498 EVAP VSV low voltage
-P0453 Evap emission control system pressure sensor High Input
(I've had these CEL codes ever since I installed flashpro)

[Andy]

update again.. just took out my spark plugs.. they were fine before I was able to start the car, now they're blaaaaack

[chez00]

That cam timing was way out and you cranked it. I'd give it a compression rest as you've risked bending your valves, sorry dude.

[Andy]

That cam timing was way out and you cranked it. I'd give it a compression rest as you've risked bending your valves, sorry dude.

aww maaaan. Also in terms of cam timing were you referring to this pic? :Attachment 24600

To me it looks really really close. Also did you mean compression test?

[Andy]

**note: the blue mark was something else lol

[chez00]

No I'm looking at the first pic. Did you crank it before that point?

[Andy]

No I'm looking at the first pic. Did you crank it before that point?

I'm not going to lie, I tried to. I'm gonna follow your advice and head off to supercheap now to get a compression tester. figures crossed :S

[chez00]

Ah spewing. What's the verdict?