DC2 or DC5

**vti-2** · 03-01-2004 12:40 PM

The Aus delivered DC5R is a rebadged Type-S from the States. Honda Australia ripped us off once again.

**Xenon** · 03-01-2004 04:51 PM

Aus delivered dc5r is basically same as JDM type r exterior and interior however stuck with the acura RSX engine (k20a2)... there are components simailar to the rsx however aus spec comes with LSD which the yank counterparts dont get..

While the engine is not the JDM engine, it has major tuning potential. Responds remarkably well with simple bolt ons.. The dc2r engine has reached the end of its potential..

In terms of speed.. both stock, dc2r wins straightline
catback on dc5r vs dc2r...dc5r wins
there isnt really that much..

However stock vs stock around track dc2r owns aus dc5r

**dc2r** · 03-01-2004 05:25 PM

both are good choices over the rexy and 200sx. either way you will be happy. my choice is obvious of which one to get... i got mine because it is lighter, handles better, and quicker. it also doesn't look big. have u ever seen a dc5r next to a dc2r? you'll understand what i mean...

**dc2r** · 03-01-2004 05:27 PM

oh and i forgot to mention that i like the rawer sounding engine which to me gives it the feel of a race car, not that a dc5r doesn't sound raw, but not as much. also, dc2r is limited edition while dc5r is more 'commercialised'...

**Tofu** · 03-01-2004 06:34 PM

if you want the aus delivered dc5r, and want to go hardcore in modifications (eg, change control arms, cams, suspension, calipers, etc) then get the aus dc5r...otherwise you will begin to realise how jipped we are by honda australia...we don't have brembos, therefore different offset to jdm dc5r (jdm dc5r offset is +60), and our suspension is totally different to the jdm version

we use ep3 brake caliper system and disc... :x

but....the DC5 is the newer ITR...and it's true aftermarket potential hasn't been tapped..

**Xenon** · 03-01-2004 07:06 PM

ARe u sure that the dc5r uses calipers and discs from EP3? Where did u get this information from?

I was under the impression that aus dc5r ended up using same brakes as used on s2000..

But yeah, too bad we didnt get the brembos..however there are plenty of aftermarkets systems to choose from

**olda** · 03-01-2004 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Xenon

Aus delivered dc5r is basically same as JDM type r exterior and interior however stuck with the acura RSX engine (k20a2)... there are components simailar to the rsx however aus spec comes with LSD which the yank counterparts dont get..

While the engine is not the JDM engine, it has major tuning potential. Responds remarkably well with simple bolt ons.. The dc2r engine has reached the end of its potential..

In terms of speed.. both stock, dc2r wins straightline
catback on dc5r vs dc2r...dc5r wins
there isnt really that much..

However stock vs stock around track dc2r owns aus dc5r

Not t/b forgotten!!!!
Double wishbone suspension front & rear on DC2R! :P
Only cooking Mc Pherson's struts on DC5R

**jenova** · 03-01-2004 08:25 PM

u get lots of potential on the aus spec k20a beause it wasn't tuned to the max from the factory like the b18c.

the aus spec dc2 didn't get the 16" rims, extractors, hid and bits of other small stuffs, but thank goodnees we get the jspec motor unlike the americans :twisted:

back to the topic, u should take both for a test drive and buy what u like.

**mugsee** · 03-01-2004 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by A'PEXi

personally, i would take a brand new dc5r from the dealership

any reason why?

lol...

**spite** · 04-01-2004 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by 96vti

im likeing the DC5 for looks and interior but DC2 for speed and price, so im not sure yet, i was told the aus spec DC5 type-r is an american spec DC5 non type-r with badges, something like that. anywaythanks for the input.. oh yeh can anyone confirm how much faster the DC2 is to the DC5?

Bring it on.

Im yet to find a stock 2, or similarly modified DC2 thats faster. On a track in stock form your probably looking at 1 or 2 seconds difference a lap, but a touch of driver training will most likely fix that problem. They are basically EXACTLY the same speed.

Do yourself a favour, get a new car that hasn't been reemed by someone else. Remember, DC2 outlived any Honda chassis lifecycle, it is a 1994 shape. That being said, it's a tested and proven car that I would handover my DC5 and my left nut for a JDM specimen of either.

In regards to crying about Australia getting a soft version, well we also got a softer DC2, just to a lesser extent and its not just cosmetic modifications. The headers are different.

Unleash a DC5, spending $2,000 on exhaust/intake and your putting out similar power to the JDM spec anyways.

Originally Posted by dc2r

oh and i forgot to mention that i like the rawer sounding engine which to me gives it the feel of a race car, not that a dc5r doesn't sound raw, but not as much. also, dc2r is limited edition while dc5r is more 'commercialised'...

Rawer sounding? Care to come for a ride? Yeh, its more commercialised but ITR is a niche market anyways it will never be a 'wrx'. I don't have a special badge on my car no, but I have a chassis number ... thats a number thats only on my car? Does that make it limited?

Really ... its about personal opinion. Buy what suits you best, not what your mates think you should buy.

**dc2r** · 04-01-2004 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by dc2r

oh and i forgot to mention that i like the rawer sounding engine which to me gives it the feel of a race car, not that a dc5r doesn't sound raw, but not as much. also, dc2r is limited edition while dc5r is more 'commercialised'...

Rawer sounding? Care to come for a ride? Yeh, its more commercialised but ITR is a niche market anyways it will never be a 'wrx'. I don't have a special badge on my car no, but I have a chassis number ... thats a number thats only on my car? Does that make it limited?

Really ... its about personal opinion. Buy what suits you best, not what your mates think you should buy.

I really do think your personal opinions are coming out here spite. I'm not here to cause beef dude. I didn't say that the dc5r didn't sound raw (read post above). This is what I've been told by other people who have experienced both (as in ClubRSX, I'm from there you know). The dc5r is NOT a limited edition like the dc2r (again taking this advice from ClubRSX).

**spite** · 04-01-2004 11:37 AM

My point is that those are relatively mute points. They are personal opinion, and nothing else.

DC5 has a new car warranty, DC2 doesn't.
DC5 comes with newer styling (like it or not), ones from 1994.
DC5 is cheaper to insure.
DC5 has more interior space.
DC5 uses marginally less petrol.
DC5 has more sound deading in cabin, better for sound. (This is useless with aftermarket zorst/intake

)
DC5 has an alarm/immobiliser already.
DC5 has better aftermarket potential.

If none of the above are important .... then just personal opinion

.

If you can afford it, I would go for the DC5. I have spent considerable time in both and I can tell you personally DC5 is the one for me. There's a whole list of things better in the DC5 that are often overlooked because people are too busy saying 'we got the shit one'.

Originally Posted by olda

Not t/b forgotten!!!!
Double wishbone suspension front & rear on DC2R! :P
Only cooking Mc Pherson's struts on DC5R

Does this mean a BMW M3/M5 is shit too?

DC2 is a more performance orientated car out of the box but we're all going to mod it right? :P