Heel toe technique

[DreadAngel]

Don't get me wrong, rev matching makes complete sense to me.

However, heel toe does not, as you'd have to be stepping on the brakes quite hard to be performing it correctly and something that's only necessary if you're late braking. Something that should be left for the track and not on the roads.

Sooooo with you there... Late braking into double lane roundabout and heel toe practice don't mix...

You don't have to have your right toe smashed on the brake pedal for the procedure called heal toe.

You can brake lightly and blip with your heal too my friend.

Maybe your right foot isn't articulate enough to perform heal toe at all braking levels. Be it hard or soft.

Guess so... I usually brake then come off it completely blip the throttle and downshift then back on brake, sounds kinda awkward to describe in words... But in practice for daily, it works fine and my syncros love me for it. I think that's what Symphorced might be suggesting to do instead?

[curtis265]

Because mechanical sympathy.


I've seen a fair few noobs downshifting without throttle blip. I feel for the car, having such a Shit driving owner.

oh gawd it shits me when i sit in peoples cars and they do that

QQ

What about when you are slowing down at the lights?

then what's wrong with leaving it in neutral and braking

the reason i couldnt heal toe before renzo was because of throttle cable slack, i had to lower the heel too far to hit the accelerator enough to bring up the revs.

s2000 is easy to do the manuever can even BOF SOF on the stock pedals.

what i really want to accomplish is left foot braking, havent done it since my eg, but in the S if u stuff up and push too hard all that weight flies forward and the rear end snaps out toooo easy.

i think i got the hang of this in the lude

got the tail sliding a lot aroudn tight bends

made me feel expert

[RenzokukenJ]

oh gawd it shits me when i sit in peoples cars and they do that

QQ


then what's wrong with leaving it in neutral and braking

i think i got the hang of this in the lude

got the tail sliding a lot aroudn tight bends

made me feel expert

I brake with gears

W2fite?

Fuk neutral and brake, no feels

[amant02]

I hardly use heel and toe,

But when I do, Its so you come out of the corner in the power band + it allows me to enter a corner at a higher speed then I normally would, insta power at the apex of the turn. Ever sat around a corner in vtec? This is how u do it (some pro drivers are gonna gimme shit for this).

Sure it adds stress on the brakes and rotors, but it gives me a thrill of a lifetime. I mod/service the car accordingly.

Do your pocket and car a favor and drive normally. Rev matching is something every manual driver should know, its basic driving skill.

Oh left foot braking, never can get the hang of that, feels weird touching the brake pedals with my left foot. I either brake too much, or too little then I end up doing some weird shit trying to correct it lol.

Please do not try on normal roads, its very risky.

[Chernoby1]

But when I do, Its so you come out of the corner in the power band + it allows me to enter a corner at a higher speed then I normally would, insta power at the apex of the turn. Ever sat around a corner in vtec? This is how u do it (some pro drivers are gonna gimme shit for this).

I am struggling to see how heel and toe is at all relevant to what you are saying. You are just in the right gear for that corner :/

Sure it adds stress on the brakes and rotors, but it gives me a thrill of a lifetime. I mod/service the car accordingly.

Wat.

Do your pocket and car a favor and drive normally. Rev matching is something every manual driver should know, its basic driving skill.

Heel/Toe is rev matching........ and Normal people do not rev match. Im going by the definition that normal is qhat MOST people do; driving normally means using the synchros.

Oh left foot braking, never can get the hang of that, feels weird touching the brake pedals with my left foot. I either brake too much, or too little then I end up doing some weird shit trying to correct it lol.

Sound like you need more practice. LFB is one thing, but when feeling riskay, i use left foot to accelerate too. Mad awks in body position. Doing right foot clutching isnt that bad in most cars either. Also probs worth trying to change gears with your right hand.;Gottsa be prepared for loosing a limb yo!

[amant02]

uh heel and toe = rev matching.

My def - Heel and toe = Braking while keeping the engine revs up. Rev Matching = Slight/Heavy blip on the accelerator before down shifting to desired gear, to Match the engine speed to wheel speed. Double Clutch = In gear>Clutch> Let go of clutch while in neutral blip accelerator> Clutch In gear to save syncros has to be done in one smooth motion and very fast. Flat shift = Never let go of accelerator just change the gears super fast aka violent kick in of the clutch and let go asap (works super good with dog box).

These are what I can do. This is what I've believed for the last 3 years of practice.

[mocchi]

amant youre now ready for best motoring gunma touge race wars.

[cbauto]

Where is spidermun

[curtis265]

when feeling riskay, i use left foot to accelerate too. Mad awks in body position. Doing right foot clutching isnt that bad in most cars either. Also probs worth trying to change gears with your right hand.;Gottsa be prepared for loosing a limb yo!

you must look like an absolute spastic

[Chernoby1]

you must look like an absolute spastic

Took a while but I got it looking natural enough now. Single foot driving is non noticable, and an now able to shift with right hand, without twisting my back.

[Baby Face]

uh heel and toe = rev matching.

My def - Heel and toe = Braking while keeping the engine revs up. Rev Matching = Slight/Heavy blip on the accelerator before down shifting to desired gear, to Match the engine speed to wheel speed. Double Clutch = In gear>Clutch> Let go of clutch while in neutral blip accelerator> Clutch In gear to save syncros has to be done in one smooth motion and very fast. Flat shift = Never let go of accelerator just change the gears super fast aka violent kick in of the clutch and let go asap (works super good with dog box).

These are what I can do. This is what I've believed for the last 3 years of practice.

This is a different technique that is common for advanced FF drivers and Turbo cars since its keeps the boost on.
essentially the technique you are describing is the true left foot braking, breaking with the left foot and keeping your right foot applying gas through out the corner. You are just doing it wrong or unorthodox.
its good for controlling the cars weight distribution. and the advantage of being right on the gas straight away aint bad either.

So heal toe, is short for heal toe shifting, is the act of rev matching with the heal and toe, not brake slipping as that is generally done with the whole left foot on the brake and the whole right foot on the gas as this also gives better control over how much break and how much power to overcome the breaks u need, in a fwd car i guess its not so deadly important if you get it slightly wrong. rwd is another game.

[mocchi]

so in short, heal your toe if you break it.