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  1. #13
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    turbo civics are fun. Its not too expensive anyway so just boost it.
    Evo vs Civic. All comes down to how much you wana put into it.
    End of the day if you have enough money the evo will kill the civic.
    Bigger motor + 4wd will always beat the fwd smaller motor.

    My civic use to rip stop Evos & rexy's on the straight, but on the corners they r fast. Also traction is great on 4wd compared to a fwd.

    End of the day i wanted all the creature comforts.
    Evo drives better, handles better and non of the rattles etc of an old car.
    Also boost is on tap and i can fly in wet weather like its dry.
    Evo IX - THE FINAL EVOLUTION

  2. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoon-Accord View Post
    G'day all

    I've been researching and watching videos of people thrashing their cars, most of the video with turbo honda's they hit the limiter like a rabbit on heat,

    For example , first gear wheel spin, hit limiter for 2 seconds and then into 2nd gear wheel spin sitting on limiter and so on

    Would smashing the limiter be harmful or bad? Cause I'm about to start my project boosting my ek4, and watching all these videos with people smashing their rev limiters like its nothing

    Hope I made sense, it's hard to describe this sorta thing.


    Kenny
    Stock ECU. 'Rev limiter' is fuel cut only. Bounce off this limiter for any extended period of time. Lean out condition and bang!

    Hondata (not sure about other ecus). 'Rev limiter' is also fuel cut only. Bounce off this limiter for any extended period of time. Lean out condition and bang!

    Hondata (not sure about other ecus). 'Launch control' is ignition cut. Bounce off this limiter and there won't be an issue.

    Depending how the Ecu is tunned It could be bouncing off either limiter, as launch control is set at a cirtain (generally lower rpm) governed by vehicle speed value. So anything higher than this speed cancels the launch control rpm value.
    Deano.

  3. #15
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    datsun 200b
    Ahh right

    Thanks for the responses again

    Motor in question is still undecided

    Looking at bolting up a gtx3071r on the stock b16a first to get a feel for it

    Need lsd, cause I doubt the s4c I have atm doesn't have lsd

    Planning on picking up a b18c2 and build it up instead of pissing around with the motor I have in the car (can also drive it around in the meantime)

    Been looking at lasey or dart sleeved and built bottom end blocks, but I'm afraid of the postage costs
    Also sending them a core block would be expensive too (dart can supply core blocks for additional costs which seems like a better alternative)
    VTEC+Turbo=dirty underpants

  4. #16
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    Hi comp + boost = the most fun you will ever have without involving a female

    I would choose a Precision or EFR turbo over a Garrett as they respond better to the charateristics of the Honda motors.

    Darton sleeves are my personal choice if you were to sleeve it and there a one or two guys I trust to install these in Australia.

    Just stick with a B18C block with a good set of sleeves and some good pistons, rods & bearings and you will be fine
    Kermit EGK20A
    Winton: 1:35.08
    Wakefield: 1:08.8

  5. #17
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    Stock sleeves? Just add pistons and rods ?

    I was thinking of that too, sub 300 kW is enough
    VTEC+Turbo=dirty underpants

  6. #18
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    I have a genuine ek9 gear box here if ur keen Kenny...

    freshly rebuilt with LSD ...

  7. #19
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    so gtr's have shit engines

    i see
    Last edited by renzokukenj; Today at 12:34 AM. Reason: hehe

  8. #20
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    GTR have good engines, don't hate or dislike them
    Nor any other engine out there

    I've just been thinking about boosted b series for quite sometime now, I've just never had the motivation to get the ball rolling, but after today, sat in a customers supra on a base tune of 380kw atw, that made me jizz all over.

    Being in a k.swap civic is one thing, being in that supra made me hold on for dear life
    VTEC+Turbo=dirty underpants

  9. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoon-Accord View Post
    GTR have good engines, don't hate or dislike them
    Nor any other engine out there

    I've just been thinking about boosted b series for quite sometime now, I've just never had the motivation to get the ball rolling, but after today, sat in a customers supra on a base tune of 380kw atw, that made me jizz all over.

    Being in a k.swap civic is one thing, being in that supra made me hold on for dear life
    My plan was a K24 Rotrex but can't justify the cost lol
    161.4KW ATW Tuned By TODA
    EG5 JDM B16A SiR-II TURBO

    13.28@106.6mph 2.117 60ft On RE001

  10. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukezen27 View Post
    My plan was a K24 Rotrex but can't justify the cost lol

    how was your civic boosted anyway? fun? reliable?

    i like it because it's different. honda's are usually just N/A, i wanted to go boost because its different and abit more of a challenge.

    i'll be putting this engine together myself, only thing i won't be doing is the tuning and machine work (like honing,head machining)

    cause i do have a spare b16a2 sitting on the engine stand atm, slowly pulling her apart and just measuring her up before ordering the parts required
    VTEC+Turbo=dirty underpants

  11. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoon-Accord View Post
    how was your civic boosted anyway? fun? reliable?

    i like it because it's different. honda's are usually just N/A, i wanted to go boost because its different and abit more of a challenge.

    i'll be putting this engine together myself, only thing i won't be doing is the tuning and machine work (like honing,head machining)

    cause i do have a spare b16a2 sitting on the engine stand atm, slowly pulling her apart and just measuring her up before ordering the parts required
    Yeah boosted EGs are well wicked and I also do most of my own work to keep costs down and I enjoy the building process anyway

    Shouldn't have ever sold her........... Stupid EP3R bug haha

    I'm now back rock'n the EG Civics again..

    First one blew-up! but only after more than 3 years of very hard labor
    All boosted stock D's blowup eventually as warned by Adrian then (TODA)

    Project 1.
    GReddy Turbo EG5 VTi D16Y1 SOHC VTec (threw a con-rod on a local Dyno day)
    Power 120kw (Later 137kw)
    1/4 Mile PB 14.5

    Project 2.
    Custom Turbo EG5 VTi JDM B16A2 (Still going strong and ran a 12.2 with slicks and E85 power re-tune 180kw)
    Power 161kw
    1/4 Mile PB 13.2

    Project 3. Current (Build type undecided)
    EG5 project
    Last edited by Lukezen27; 02-06-2014 at 08:59 AM.
    161.4KW ATW Tuned By TODA
    EG5 JDM B16A SiR-II TURBO

    13.28@106.6mph 2.117 60ft On RE001

  12. #24
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    it's suprising, for 161kw ATW you managed to gain 12.2 1/4 mile which is impressive.

    ATM, my build list consists of

    b16a2 short block (standard sleeves,standard bore sizes)
    JE forged pistons (9.1 CR)
    GE forged rods
    get the crank balanced and cleaned up
    might use OEM bearings or ACL race bearings
    GSC T1 cams (love the way they idle, nice little lumpy note from exhaust and have been proving very well for low-midrange torque) which i really need
    3 angle valve job
    GSC valves,springs and ti retainers
    DIY mild port job and remove all casting burrs
    skunk2 ultra series street Intake manifold
    ITR throttle body

    with the turbo kit, this is what i've put together (this list has been changed every week for the last year,still researching and undecided, but its 80% sure)

    TR3030R by speedtrapconsulting ( built the imfamous silver surfer in the states)
    Spoolin performance stainless log manifold,downpipe,dump pipe kit (retain A/C and P/S)
    Tial wastegate and BOV
    spoolin performance intercooler piping kit
    garrett 400hp cooler in anodized black

    probably left a few things out,but thats all i have up in my mind now.
    i hope i can pull off somewhere around 300-350kw, but have a response monster with top end pull aswell.
    was hoping to get the GTX3071R, but he reccomended me to get the TR3030r as its a mix of the gtx3071r and 3076R
    VTEC+Turbo=dirty underpants

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