S2000 to GT86 ?

[Parky]

It's my only car and drive about 3 days a week. So it's not all out track car hence the need for a good alarm with all the expensive mods. I like my cars to be in top condition hence need for respray hehe.

So how would a modified s2k go against a similarly modified GT86?

[munster42]

It's my only car and drive about 3 days a week. So it's not all out track car hence the need for a good alarm with all the expensive mods. I like my cars to be in top condition hence need for respray hehe.

So how would a modified s2k go against a similarly modified GT86?

86 gets raped every time. they are slow and feel like it. plus everyone should know how hard it is to get good power out of a boxer without boosting it. Stick with the honda, spend some money, do a burnout.

[munster42]

86 gets raped every time. they are slow and feel like it. plus everyone should know how hard it is to get good power out of a boxer without boosting it. Stick with the honda, spend some money, do a burnout.

And to help with the unbiased side of things. I work for Toyota and when the 86 was coming out I was so eager. I got to drive the first one that came in and was disappointed. they just don't perform how you think they would. clutch is soft and horrible. suspension is too spongy.

Well all in personal opinion anyway

[PJT]

Oh , another thing, don't know how tall you are, but I'm 6'2" and my head scrapes the roof of an 86 when I've got helmet on.

[daevilone]

86 gets raped every time. they are slow and feel like it. plus everyone should know how hard it is to get good power out of a boxer without boosting it. Stick with the honda, spend some money, do a burnout.

No, not really...

it depends what is meant by modified. The big problem the s2000 has vs an 86 is aero. Stock 86 has much more aero than a stock bodied s2000, this makes up for a lot of the power difference around a track as an 86 can out corner s2ks. (assuming the 86 is off the god awful stock tyres and rims)

A lot of reports put the s2000 as more fun to drive, but not as much faster than an 86 as people would think.

there is plenty of information on this topic on the net and on S2ki. Including from people who have raced both.

but again, if you already own the S2000, it's a no brainer to keep it.

[neut]

Your comparing against a NEW car vs a car that was bloody released in 1999. Also your comparing a Hardtop car(86) vs a car that came out with a soft top. End of the day.. honda fkn wins. Been in both and s2000 gets my vote.

Although the new 86, they did a great job bringing back the Soft padded material on the dash etc.. because these days all new cars come with shitty feeling texture like plastic.

[EKVTIR-T]

Your comparing against a NEW car vs a car that was bloody released in 1999.

FD rx7 is 1992 design and beats both in all areas,except for fuel economy of course

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

spend some money, do a burnout.

Regardless of your decision do this anyway.

[philipminge]

i believe that a 2009 86 against a 2008/9 s2k would get smashed in all areas. handling, braking, power, sliding, pulling bitches... the lot.. i have driven both... the 86 handles amazing.... easy to drive and very planted...

the ap2 is same but with more balls.... more responsive and aggressive. to have the 86 at the level of the s2000 you would need to spend decent cashola. my 2 cents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGj3o...utu.be&t=3m47s

watch this!!!!!!!!!! watch entire video!

he couldnt have said it better. the 86 is a "sporty car" but not a true "sportscar"

my opinion anyway guys. i love the 86.... but my god the s2 is really up there. its delish

[muzukashi]

S2000 over 86 in many many ways, give it a few years the 86 will depreciate and will go for roughly the same value as a well maintained S2000.
Bear in mind we're talking cars from 2012-2014 vs 1999-2007.

Same shit is gonna happen to the 86 as it did to the FN2R - Appealed to the younger crowd who had a bit more cash to spend and wanted something newer.
After owning it for x years they realize its now super common and its depreciated as with anything but obviously being newer they are the ones who unfortunately cop the 5-10k depreciation. The amount of white 86s in Western Sydney is ridiculous .

Unless you ABSOLUTELY needed 4 seats or you have something for the aesthetics of the 86 - you'd be crazy to take the 86 over the S2000.

[dougie_504]

Driven a BRZ a handful of times, with CAI and exhaust.

Have to say, it's an extremely gutless car. Fanboys can hide behind the 'it's not supposed to be fast, it's a fun car to drift!' line all they want but the fact remains that it's too slow to be what I call a fun sports car..

Apparently the E85 conversion is great for the mid-range power they seriously lack. Or stick a turbo/SC on it etc.

Besides that I don't like the fact that they run skinny wheels with crappy Prius tyres either. Same thing with the fanboys, apparently that makes it more fun, but honestly in the wet it's just plain dangerous being on such a crap wheel/tyre setup in that kind of car.


Take one for a test drive. But IMO stick to the S2000.

[chez00]

I actually despise the 86/BRZ in anything like standard form. I have driven one on an extended test drive, and also been shotgun in a couple. The engine performance is jaw-droppingly bad, it feels full of torque holes throughout the range. The gearbox is notchy and never really gets better with warmth. The clutch drags out of the factory making this way worse than it should be though, and can be adjusted. The interior looks ripped out of the corolla and probably is. They are fun to belt through corners because they do go where you point them - and this is what gets people excited about them. With new bushes (particularly the diff rubbers) the S2000 does that too.

The stock rims are the second ugliest on the road and only lose out to those god-awful Subaru XV rims (obviously spat out of the same factory). The garish TRD body kits make them look like a Hyundai coupe.

But hey we're comparing a car that's not that much more expensive than a Corolla so what can you expect?

IMO, stick to the S2000 which will be a genuine classic in the future. I think they still drive like not a lot else out there.