Another Home Turbo Install!!!!!

[smoknhothonda]

I can understand that the VAFC isnt the ideal EMS, but for some ppl on a budget it helps.

From my experiences the VAFC would be best avoided if possible, running only low boost (6-8PSI) providing you are running an injector/pump upgrade with the package tuned on the dyno.

How much boost were you running, and how many kays had you done poweredbyhonda when you had a 'meltdown'??

[LVNIT]

Sell the VAFC and get a fully programmable ECU. I did the hack way and ended up getting a rebuild. Learn form other peoples mistakes. I've been there 3 years ago so I would have a bit of a clue. ECU is the most important part of the turbo kit. Without it you pretty much have a useless car/kit.

There are many people in America who have been using 'the hack' for 12 + months and who have not had a problem. In saying that, im sure there are a few who have had problems...

BUT using the AFC is a good way for people to build a cheap turbo setup and who only want to run 10psi Of course now there are more options around which are safer..

[Weq]

the main problem with the hack is timing retard. RUnning stock advance at 10psi can be a dangermix with a b16a. u can go with a static retard at the dist, but u loose some driveability and tuneability.

[LVNIT]

I found a thread on Turbod16.com where they checked the actual amount of timing that was advanced. Came to about 7.25 degrees I believe and that was at 6psi, I dunno, ill find the thread somewhere...

[ProECU]

that sounds like a LOT of timing to me at 6psi

[barefootbonzai]

All you ECU experts out there, what do you recommonded me getting? I guess another Grand or so wouldn't hurt. I've gone this far, might as well go all the way. Just point me to what and how much i'll be looking at and where to grab one from.

And just an update, i've got my clutch in. It's a little trickyer to drive, but i'm sure i'll get use to it soon.

[LVNIT]

You can get Uberdata running for about $1200 and that includes a wideband oxygen sensor. But depends on how much you want to learn...

It is an option though

[tinkerbell]

microtec LTX8 for about $1250 with handcontroller from DynoDave on here,

plus $660 install and tuning...

dont quote me, but i recon those prices are about right

microtec is fuel and timing, just not the best resolution in terms of maps...

but does the trick if you are hard up for cash...

wayyyy better than VAFC...

problem is he is in sydney

[McChook]

microtec LTX8 for about $1250 with handcontroller from DynoDave on here,

plus $660 install and tuning...

dont quote me, but i recon those prices are about right

microtec is fuel and timing, just not the best resolution in terms of maps...

but does the trick if you are hard up for cash...

wayyyy better than VAFC...

problem is he is in sydney

Yeah, sounds right to me....

Microtech = the way to go

Although, Hondata wouldn't be so bad either

[[DC2]]

how much did it cost u 4 all the parts?

[MR-VTEC]

read the thread^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[LVNIT]

Here is the link of the actual timing advance using apexi safc

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/i...p?topic=8210.0

7.2 is peak timing @ 5-6 psi and then it begins to drop as low as .8 @ 10 psi

Hope that helps you out a bit