Honda Beat PP1 discussion thread

[Tegzieboi_BAR]

Hey guys,

Just thought I'd get the ball rolling on a Honda Beat discussion thread as unfortunately there wasn't really one on OzHonda.

Please feel free to contribute with any info, links, photos or questions regarding Honda's little pocket rocket. Due to the age of these models and the nature of the high-revving 656cc 3-cylinder engine, they do need some love by this point in their life. Parts can be quite difficult to get a hold of and unfortunately aren't exactly cheap by the time you import them from Japan etc so if anyone has some knowledge and experience in importing bits, looking up part numbers, or perhaps has some spare bits laying around feel free to add.

I'm very interested to know how many Beats there actually are in Australia so If you own one, or know of one, let us know as I'd love to get an approximate figure on the numbers.

I can think of at least 3 (and a 4th I saw a few years back) here in Adelaide, and certainly a few more interstate.

I'll update this thread shortly with some technical info, pics and links.

Here's mine...

It's a '95 Verion-Z which to my knowledge is pretty well the same with only real differences being the factory LSD, alloy wheels & spoiler as standard, and all-black cluster.

I picked this up towards the end of 2013 in complete factory condition.



A parts order was made within days of picking it up. Some minor additions to the interior were a Nardi steering wheel, OEM DC2R gear knob and boot, Carbing roll bar (purely cosmetic as I don't think it would do jack in case of an actual rollover), Pioneer deck (factory player is pretty much shagged). I'll be looking at picking up a Recaro SPG as I currently already own one and I think the black and grey will suit the Beat's interior perfectly, although with the current suspension setup my back gets pretty sore as is, on cushiony factory seats. The zebra seats have actually kinda grown on me.



The thing looked pretty crap on stock "phone dial" wheels, so a set of staggered TE37's was ordered from YJ as well as a some Trust PS-Compact coils. Made a world of difference with the look of the car and more importantly handling. Oh and the tyres were 1000x better than the crap that came on it. Sizes are 14x6" +38 & 15x6.5" +36 with 165's all round.



Stock exhaust was rattling and falling apart so had a custom one made up. Sounds tops with little backfire pops on the downshift. Also, made a custom airbox with HKS filter to open up those ITB's a bit.



My 2 projects.



Recently picked up a set of Mugen NR10's as an alternative set... got a good deal on them so couldn't resist. I think they suit the car nicely. They are in pretty good knick but will look at doing a full resto on them to really get them sparkling. Also looking at picking up a set of CF48's.



I quite like the factory body of the PP1 and don't want to fiddle with it too much due to the rarity of the thing so as far as bodywork goes will just keep it to a US Racing front lip and Backyard Special rear wing (duckbill). Currently looking at fitting up 242mm EG brakes up front as the stock ones are pretty poor. Will update you on how that goes.

If you're a Beat owner in Aus, please feel free to add some pics and info on yours.

Cheers,
Pav

[040501912]

How did you go fitting up the brakes?

looking for options for mine now.

I was planning to hit up wildwood to make me a kit for it.
cant imagine how am I going to stop the car with the K20 at the back lol.

[Tegzieboi_BAR]

I've been side tracked with my other EG project so haven't tried yet. Seems like the Wilwood kit designed for rear of EG/DC2 will be an easy bolt on with minor (if any) mods. Would be idea to run this F & R. Likely to need 15" wheels for clearance though as it uses a 280mm disk, I'm keen to stick to 14's.

[040501912]

Lol story of my project sounds exactly like urs...

Civic / beat

[Bubbz]

SA HONDA BEAT + EG Reporting in.


Picked up Honda beat last year - had a timing issue and bits and pieces missing
Other than that it drove well .. even better after the timing was fixed.

Beat PP100 - 1991 Mid mount engine RWD






Rims/tyres/suspension + front bushing changes as well as replacing missing trim.




Seat covers + some interior CF bits n pieces for final touches.
Waiting on new muffler to be installed.









Awesome car to drive through the hills especially on a nice day
Great engine sound @ high revs (red line 9-10k)
Power is not there with the stock engine but car is light weight and handles well



Have a Daily EG b18c. Need to change suspension before hitting the track.

[Beat]

Im in Sydney and own 3 Beats although one was involved in a hit and run and written off. See my web site www.hondabeat.com.au I can post more information if you are interested, I have information about brakes, suspension etc. Have a look here http://hondabeat.com.au/Parts/ it is a work in progress so any feedback would be good.

[Tegzieboi_BAR]

Im in Sydney and own 3 Beats although one was involved in a hit and run and written off. See my web site www.hondabeat.com.au I can post more information if you are interested, I have information about brakes, suspension etc. Have a look here http://hondabeat.com.au/Parts/ it is a work in progress so any feedback would be good.

Hey mate, I've actually used ur site a couple of times to track down some part numbers.

I decided to undergo a minor engine rebuild. Leaks and smoke were giving me the sh#ts. Waiting on a couple of parts but should all hopefully be done mid Jan... Still a bit of summer driving left in it hopefully.

Never got around to trying the EG brakes yet. I picked up a pretty cheap set of aftermarket pads for it so will see if there's an improvement on the stock (or at least I think they're stock) pads which are pretty average. See how I go but will def give the EG brakes a go, more for heat dispersion rather than actual stopping power. Can't imagine those little solid disks can take a solid hills outing too well.

Bubbz, I saw ur Beat a couple of weeks ago. I like the kit was actually the same one I was planning to get before I decided to stick with a more stocky look. Car looks great too! Champ white?

[Bubbz]

s2k frost white.

Should catch up sometime would like to know how you go with your engine rebuild.
I have a bit of a leak I need to get fixed soon as well hopefully just a gasket that needs replacing.

Wouldnt mind picking your brain re EG build s well lol.. mine is offroad atm due to a front end prang (have to replace radiator support).
So looking to updgrade suspension and fine tune engine while im at it and swap over to S80 LSD 4.7 gear box.

[Beat]

Im in Sydney and own 3 Beats although one was involved in a hit and run and written off. See my web site www.hondabeat.com.au I can post more information if you are interested, I have information about brakes, suspension etc. Have a look here http://hondabeat.com.au/Parts/ it is a work in progress so any feedback would be good.

Hi

Today a semi changed lanes, spun me at 100kmh so Im looking for another Beat, Needs to be straight a able to get rego, I have most parts to repair one.

Thanks

[Tegzieboi_BAR]

I just imported a Beat to The USA, and I need a new front caliper (mine has seized up from the long boat ride from Japan). Reading your post about upgrading to Jazz front brakes, I have a few questions. The Jazz is the same as the Honda Fit here in the States, so it should be a better and easier upgrade for me.
What if any issues did you have, I saw you said I needed to use all Jazz components (Caliper, pads and Rotors) and removing the Heat shield. Any other issues? I'm running 14" wheels all around.
Love your Beat, awesome!
Thank you!
Mark

As per the PM i sent you, it's literally as described in the post above. Unbolt the old calipers and rotors, mount the new, bleed and she's ready to go! Just make sure you've got the GD model (1st gen) Jazz/Fit calipers and rotors which are 240mm in diameter... hopefully the US models are the same as what we get here. Post up some pics of yours when you get a chance

Hi

Today a semi changed lanes, spun me at 100kmh so Im looking for another Beat, Needs to be straight a able to get rego, I have most parts to repair one.

Thanks

That's terrible news mate! I'm always very cautious when driving in a blind spot of cars as the Beats are so tiny and easilly missed in the rearview. Did you end up crashing into a barrier or anything? Hope you got out of it without any injuries! Is the chassis/body repairable? Anywhoo best of luck finding a replacement.

[Beat]

As per the PM i sent you, it's literally as described in the post above. Unbolt the old calipers and rotors, mount the new, bleed and she's ready to go! Just make sure you've got the GD model (1st gen) Jazz/Fit calipers and rotors which are 240mm in diameter... hopefully the US models are the same as what we get here. Post up some pics of yours when you get a chance



That's terrible news mate! I'm always very cautious when driving in a blind spot of cars as the Beats are so tiny and easilly missed in the rearview. Did you end up crashing into a barrier or anything? Hope you got out of it without any injuries! Is the chassis/body repairable? Anywhoo best of luck finding a replacement.

He overtook me, when his front was level with my front changed lane into me, I swerved and spun, the rear trailer wheels hit my front spun me into the armco. On the M5 at 7am and didn't hit another car.

[OxenBeat]

Tegzieboi_BAR,

I tried the Fit/Jazz front brake upgrade this weekend, didn't work at all. The Rotor was way to thick, it wouldn't fit without pushing the rotor out a bit (I see it's 3mm). And the caliper I got wouldn't fit over the hub, if I trimmed the middle a bit it would work. How did you get the rotor out far enough? I took the original rotor and took off the outer part to see if that would be the spacer I needed, that didn't work either.
Ugh! I guess I'm going to go with the original brakes.
Can you take a picture of your set up, it might help me a bit.
Thanks!

As per the PM i sent you, it's literally as described in the post above. Unbolt the old calipers and rotors, mount the new, bleed and she's ready to go! Just make sure you've got the GD model (1st gen) Jazz/Fit calipers and rotors which are 240mm in diameter... hopefully the US models are the same as what we get here. Post up some pics of yours when you get a chance



That's terrible news mate! I'm always very cautious when driving in a blind spot of cars as the Beats are so tiny and easilly missed in the rearview. Did you end up crashing into a barrier or anything? Hope you got out of it without any injuries! Is the chassis/body repairable? Anywhoo best of luck finding a replacement.