i say boot BAR/BAT or whatever its called now.. (as u can see i havnt been keeping up with f1lately)
it'd be great to hav a full blown honda team...
just my 2c
Honda own "80%" (not sure - open for correction) of the team now. They arent able to just say right we wanna make our own team now. If BAR hada been excluded its not like honda coulda said "Yeah cool no worries we are HONDA now" and rejoined the championship.
Honda own "80%" (not sure - open for correction) of the team now. They arent able to just say right we wanna make our own team now. If BAR hada been excluded its not like honda coulda said "Yeah cool no worries we are HONDA now" and rejoined the championship.
no no.. i dun think its 80% just yet...
they owne something like 45% ... well somewhere around that mark annyway...
Even if Honda were to buy out BATs 55% (Yes Honda owns 45% at the moment) ... although the team would be badged Honda, the employees would more than likely still be the same “cheating” BAR employees.
Note my sarcasm here – whether they are actually cheats or not is irrelevant, they will from now on in be known as the “cheating team”.
You should hear what people on the F1 forums are saying … effectively now BAR = Honda = Cheaters and all their previous accomplishments (ie. last years 2nd place in championship) are viewed as being the result of cheating (regardless of whether its true or not).
As I said in my first post this whole episode has brought shame upon Honda and nothing can remove this now regardless of the truth.
Yep mud sticks, and yes what you were saying about them being just HONDA, and keeping all staff would be the same. I doubt highly bernie would let that happen anyway, would kinda defeat the purpose of the punishment wouldnt it if they could just rebadge.
Honda own "80%" (not sure - open for correction) of the team now. They arent able to just say right we wanna make our own team now. If BAR hada been excluded its not like honda coulda said "Yeah cool no worries we are HONDA now" and rejoined the championship.
i didnt mean it in that way...
i'm all for dishing out punishment when deserved and all that
my point (which i didnt emphasize properly, my bad...) was that if Honda had much more input, such as Toyota with their team. Then chances of something like this would be minimal if not non existant.
gimme JGTC or Super GT (i think its changed names...) over F1 anyday
more exciting to watch, the rules make cars performance on a level playing field
good point about not punishing jenson and sato too much cause chances are they might not of known, and an un-intentional mistake from the team, I think the current punishment is fair however, only way to learn
jensons just surrounded by ppl who make mistakes huh.. first managers taht cant read contracts properly to mechanics that cant read scales properly ... the guy cant get a break
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