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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondavirgin
    This is a classic case of the vocal minority, since when did stoddart get elected spokesperson for the michelin teams, guy should shut up and concentrate on racing.
    I really dont know ..... this should be the business between all michellin teams and the FIA, well... Poor Paul must have forgotten that he/his team was dumped by Michellin 2 years ago, but he for sure has kept the friendship with the french manufacturer. I wonder what Bridgestone is thinking now ....

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    the conclusion


    Michelin completes tyre investigation
    Tyres not flawed but insufficiently suited...





    The loading on the tyre was greater than
    Michelin had anticipated
    Michelin has completed its investigations concerning the tyres used at Indianapolis and has communicated the results of these investigations to its partner teams:

    "The tyres were not intrinsically flawed, but were insufficiently suited to the extreme racing conditions encountered through Turn 13 of the Indianapolis circuit this year."

    Given the evolutions concerning the cars' aerodynamics, the regulations which govern the sport and the nature of the track surfaces, etc., Michelin carries out testing in the course of each season with a view to developing the tyres which are the most suited to each event. Two key elements must be known about the Indianapolis circuit:

    Turn 13, with its severe banking, is the only turn of its kind in a season of 19 races.
    <LI>Testing at Indianapolis was not possible.

    As a consequence, in order to define the specification of its tyres for Indianapolis, Michelin had to carry out simulation work based on the results of less severe testing at other venues and on estimations concerning the specific conditions likely to be met at Indianapolis in 2005.


    The Michelin investigations have revealed that the loads exerted on the rear left tyre through Turn 13 at Indianapolis were far superior to the highest estimations of Michelin's engineers. This year, the situation through this corner turned out to be altered by the extreme combination of the speed, lateral acceleration and additional dynamic load. The tyres which Michelin took were therefore insufficiently adapted to the extreme conditions of Turn 13 in 2005. This was a problem.

    On the other hand, investigations concerning the materials and construction employed for the tyres produced for Indianapolis have confirmed the absence of any anomaly. The tyres did not have an intrinsic flaw but they were not insufficiently suited to turn 13.

    Moreover, this analysis confirmed the pertinence of the tyre solutions specified for all the other circuits.

    In retrospect, this analysis perfectly validates the pertinence of the precautionary measures requested by Michelin and its partner teams in the interests of driver safety and fully confirms that the addition of a chicane at the entrance of Turn 13, which would have guaranteed lower speeds through Turn 13, would have enabled spectators not to be deprived of a high class competition, while at the same time guaranteeing the safety of the drivers.

    As a consequence:

    1. Based on these investigations, Michelin has revised its simulation model for 'banked' corners such as Turn 13 at Indianapolis in view of the special effects caused by this corner.

    2. Michelin requests that it be possible in the future to undertake testing at Indianapolis before the Grand Prix.

    3. Michelin confirms that it will be present with safe, competitive tyres at the forthcoming Grand Prix races.

    In conclusion, Michelin Competition's Director Mr. Pierre Dupasquier declared: "The problem was that we under-evaluated the extreme constraints to which tyres were exposed through Turn 13 in the specific context of 2005. We are grateful to our partners for their work with us right up to the last moment to seek a solution that would have permitted the race to go ahead in total safety. We regret that the spectators did not see an exciting race. However, in keeping with its principles, Michelin did not sacrifice safety for performance."

    Press Release
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    I hope Michelin don't race till Max and Bernie leave!
    I think they have understand, that is they don't race Bernie and Max aren't in charge!

    Paul is looking for media attention!

    EDit:
    Anyone seen the Honda-Channel 10 F1 commercial.
    Promoting the French GP with time and that.
    Good to see they are trying to promote F1
    Last edited by LUD02C; 28-06-2005 at 05:14 PM.

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    And Subaru using it's rallying a lot more lately. Good for motorsport.

    Hehe, Stoddart is a nutter. What's he going on about now, boycotts? If I was in charge, I'd be very tempted to penalise Stoddart for bringing the sport into disrepute. Penalty, he has to be kept on a leash by Max Mosley... Max will take him on walkies and keep him fed but no interviews with the press.

    Stoddart would do F1 a favour if he backed off a bit.

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    Barrichello at BAR for 2k6?


    (GMM) All is not well, or so it would seem, between Rubens Barrichello and his Ferrari team.

    The Brazilian admitted he is having to 'put up with a lot of things' within the red camp.

    An obviously frosty relationship has developed between Rubens and teammate Michael Schumacher after near clashes at Monaco and Indianapolis.

    And, believed to be no longer willing to play second fiddle to the championship winning German, Barrichello is now linked with a switch next year to BAR.

    ''You know, I'm just a little Brazilian against a very big world.

    ''It's a very big fight.''
    if he does move, wonder who'd replace him at Ferrari?

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    someone who would be a good number 2 for sure.......although there's not that many out there nowadays.
    ALL WITCHES' HATS MUST DIE!!!!!

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    The seven teams - Williams, McLaren, Renault, Sauber, Toyota, BAR Honda and Red Bull - face losing constructors' world championship points or punitive fines, as well as charges of bringing the sport into disrepute.
    lol ... What points would BAR Honda lose?? This might be good for their championship to be honest lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by hihidamon
    lol ... What points would BAR Honda lose?? This might be good for their championship to be honest lol
    ahahaha true true... maybe they'll have negative points?


    anyway Michelin have decided to pay the fans at Indi the cost of their tickets.. n have also offered to buy 20k tickets for next years gp to be given to spectators... good gesture me thinks... ... still think FIA should be held partly responsible n should incure some of the costs...


    function openwindow(url,title,options) { window.open(url,title,options); }Michelin to contribute to US spectator costs
    Company to purchase 20,000 tickets for fans...





    Michelin react to calls for compensation
    On the eve of the FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on Wednesday, Michelin has released the following press release.

    "One week after the Indianapolis Grand Prix, Michelin wishes to make a sincere gesture of goodwill towards the people present at the GP, a group whose passion for F1 is encouraging in the development of this sport in the United States.

    Therefore, on our own initiative and in total solidarity with our partners, we have taken two decisions:

    <LI>1. Michelin has decided to contribute to the costs incurred by the spectators present at the circuit on Sunday June 19th 2005 by offering to refund their tickets. This is an important decision, since Michelin is not at all legally bound to do this.

    Michelin deeply regrets that the public was deprived of an exciting race and therefore wishes to be the first, among the different groups involved in the Indianapolis race, to make a strong gesture towards the spectators.

    <LI>2. Michelin also offers to buy 20,000 tickets for the 2006 U.S. Grand Prix to be given to spectators who were present at the Indianapolis race in 2005. We are offering this to promote further Formula 1 interest in the United States.


    We would also like to take this opportunity to underline the fact that it is unacceptable that our partner teams have been accused by the FIA of having boycotted the Indianapolis Grand Prix. The reality is that together, Michelin and its partners have done everything possible to assure that the race could take place in total safety.

    We are extremely disappointed that the proposals made with all our teams were not accepted. These proposals, including a chicane, were technically viable and totally met all safety requirements. On Sunday morning, June 19, the sporting authority had all the means necessary to preserve the interest of the race. And yet, the sporting authority rejected the proposed solutions. Why? In our view this is totally incomprehensible and reflects a lack of respect for the spectators.

    It is the spirit of respect for the spectators that brought us, with our partners, to propose solutions to allow the race to take place in total safety. It is this same spirit that leads us today to make this gesture."

    Press Release
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    Michelin are smart, good on em for doing that

  10. #202
    I actually thought Rubens would be gone in 2004.
    If I was Ferrari I'd go after Klien or Wurz (main 2 that come in my mind now)

    Edit: Or even heidfeld if he doesn't go to BMW
    Last edited by LUD02C; 29-06-2005 at 05:03 PM.

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    They've got an advantage coz they don't need to train a successor to michael, when the time comes they'll have pockets deep enough to buy a top level guy right off the bat.
    ALL WITCHES' HATS MUST DIE!!!!!

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    fuk klien or wurz, get someone that actually has tallent and get raikkonen or someone like that or alonso when michael leaves, and money can buy anything so they could easily afford one or both of them. when michael leaves they will have plenty of extra money

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