Jazz as a Performance Vehicle?

[Zimp13]

sorry missed the question about handling

i list below all my recent cars past owned with the suspension used in ranked order in my opinion from best to worst

1. ek4- koni adjustable coilovers
2. eg6- front lowering springs
3. fit- tein adjustable coilovers
4. ek4- standard
5. dc2- standard

hands down the civic has best handling out of these honda cars, the eg more so than the ek if a good suspension setup

sure i havent slammed the fit yet but i doubt it would handle better than the other hondas listed

i have seen video of fit on track and once the driver cliped the kerb and momentarily lifted it up on the 2 side wheels 2 reason i think this happen because 1.lightweight 2.center of gravity high

without going into great detail you will know all great handling cars are low, toyota mrs, nsx, ferrari etc

park a fit next to these cars it will look like milk truck

also i think the eps is totally screwed and there is a discussion about this on another thread and i this is also important to consider for handling

despite these negative remarks i still my fit but i fully realise the limitations of the car and dont expect it to be a f1 fighter jet

i guess thats y spoon slammed its jazz that low to the ground....

[panda]

yes have to slam to compensate for the height of the car, jazz is high and skinny, civic is wide and low, civic the perfect handling beast

[Jus-10]

Yeah the steering is definately the downer on the handling front....

[panda]

they could have maybe added a eps control like honda cf4 so can control hardnes and softnes of steering

[ahcash]

Referring to the Temple of VTEC Asia, KN tested the Jazz and I quote :

It consistently did the 0-60mph run at a time of between 8.7 to 9.0 seconds for an average of just above 8.8 seconds !! This was really astonishing especially at the time I was doing the runs. By comparison, the 'reference' cars in the mid-sized and full-sized 'sports-sedan' segment, the Civic 2.0 i-VTEC and the local Accord 2.4 i-VTEC returned averaged times of 8.5 and 8.6 seconds respectively, not a lot faster than what the Jazz did !

Link : http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/JazzVtec/index.html

[**Ghost**]

hmmm thats a really interesting vehicle

on the topic of straight line speed for $17,000 bucks... u can get a pretty new s.14 for that money i think...but yeh he wants a honda and he reckons the jazz looks really good

so a jazz IS comparable to a civic VTI or civic Si?

[D16Y]

id definitely say so, plus its a much more practical car than the 3dr civic

[**Ghost**]

all very interseting...

so all u jazz drivers reckon the car will gain the status of the older SOHC VTEC civics one day to modifierS?

[petrovski]

**Ghost**all very interseting...

so all u jazz drivers reckon the car will gain the status of the older SOHC VTEC civics one day to modifierS?

Eventually . . .


On the handling side of things, I've never been in a civic with an aftermarket suspension setup so i can't compare it to that, however, from stock suspension to what i have now it is a MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT!!! It handles as well as my dad's IS300 if not better in some circumstances but thats just my opinion . . . .

If he does get a jazz, definitely put the j's racing fender braces on the list as they massively reduce the understeer on the car!!

Pete

[Zimp13]

Eventually . . .


On the handling side of things, I've never been in a civic with an aftermarket suspension setup so i can't compare it to that, however, from stock suspension to what i have now it is a MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT!!! It handles as well as my dad's IS300 if not better in some circumstances but thats just my opinion . . . .

If he does get a jazz, definitely put the j's racing fender braces on the list as they massively reduce the understeer on the car!!

Pete

fender braces?? which one is that? any pic?

[petrovski]

Sorry for temporary hijack
Jus-10 has the photos of them as we used his camera . . .

Pete

[panda]

fender braces?? which one is that? any pic?

i think he talking about canards