Euro Vs Sportivo

[albii]

another point is.......i drove a mazda 6 luxury sport...feels quicker than the euro much quicker actually why cos it drives like a truck and its no where near as refined....another thing my 4000km old triton v6 feels quicker than my euro but its no where near it in accelerating why does it feel so quick cos its no where near as refined and as smooth to drive....one more thing..there is no way a $19990 derived car is gonna be as smooth and refined as a $35000 derived car ..

[aaronng]

2ZZ-GE is considered high revving because the peak torque rpm is close to the peak power rpm, and both are close to redline.
2ZZ-GE 141kW@7800rpm, 180Nm@6800rpm (1000rpm powerband)
K24A3 140kW@6800rpm, 223Nm@4500rpm (2300rpm powerband)

So the Euro's engine may be high revving, but it is not the same class of high revving as the 2ZZ-GE.

[aaronng]

another point is.......i drove a mazda 6 luxury sport...feels quicker than the euro much quicker actually why cos it drives like a truck and its no where near as refined....another thing my 4000km old triton v6 feels quicker than my euro but its no where near it in accelerating why does it feel so quick cos its no where near as refined and as smooth to drive....one more thing..there is no way a $19990 derived car is gonna be as smooth and refined as a $35000 derived car ..

What do you mean by derived car? The engine and the gearbox of the sportivo comes from a $39300 car (Celica SX manual).

Also, the $19990 Ascent comes from Japan, while the Sportivo comes from South Africa.

[albii]

What do you mean by derived car? The engine and the gearbox of the sportivo comes from a $39300 car (Celica SX manual).

yeah but the drive train is all $19990

[albii]

we are talking nvh levels smoothness and heck that yamaha engine isnt very smooth either

[aaronng]

yeah but the drive train is all $19990

But how can you determine drivetrain smoothness from the price?

Example, a DC2R that cost over $40000. Based on price, it means the $35000 Euro should be less refined. Let's all go test drive Sportivos and determine if the driveline is that harsh.

[albii]

But how can you determine drivetrain smoothness from the price?

Example, a DC2R that cost over $40000. Based on price, it means the $35000 Euro should be less refined. Let's all go test drive Sportivos and determine if the driveline is that harsh.

i drove a sportivo and a celica and the celica isnt as refined as i thought it would be and the corolla is less. btw you cant compare a 7 yo car to a new one either..thats like saying then why is a 1985 porsche 911 not as refined as a euro doesnt make sense.

[Suntzu]

I dont get it. If Id wanted a pissy toyota i would have bought one! There no comparison. The Euros the better all round car. Dunno what you guys are arguing about.

[jl88rl]

Exactly, sound like my gf nagging.

Can someone pls post up better threads that have real essence.

[VirIIx]

i think this topic has watered down, it's just the same old stuff over the last few pages.. let's move on.

Now.. i think my euro is better than a souped up excel because...

[albii]

i want to compare an elephant with a bicycle..the elephant feels quicker to me.

[aaronng]

i drove a sportivo and a celica and the celica isnt as refined as i thought it would be and the corolla is less. btw you cant compare a 7 yo car to a new one either..thats like saying then why is a 1985 porsche 911 not as refined as a euro doesnt make sense.

Ooops..... DC5R

Okok, time to post in threads with substance... I admit, I think I sound like a child in my posts....