2005 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbu (discussion)

[Vivski]

I'm not so sure aaronng. Webber was there, Schumacher cut him off. Webber was 2sec per lap faster than Schumacher. But in the end it didn't matter, 'cos they were both doomed anyway. I can't really blame Michael, 'cos it would've been hard to know where Webber was (he still could have left some room, 'cos Webber was closing fast!!), but also once Webber had committed to the pass, there was no way out. We all know how hard Schumacher defends his position, it was always going to take a good move to get past. Unfortunate. You cannot blame Webber for going for it, he made a great move, got the line and then Michael chopped him off.

But then the next lap, Michael was stupid and almost took out Fisichella when he was limping back to the pits!! Bad driving. Maybe he should go with Sato to the "How to use your mirrors" course.

And Montoya got infront of Monteiro but cut right across infront and stomped on the brakes. Not much Monteiro could do. The McLaren stops a lot better than the Jordan. Stupid mistake from Montoya. There was just no need to pull back across!

BEST RACE OF THE SEASON!!! Best race by a long way. Finally there's a track which actually challenges the drivers. They really had to work for it in Turkey and there was actually overtaking!! Best track in F1 and what a debut for the event.

I'm happy for Montoya's mistake, 'cos it means I tipped the top 3!! WOOHOO!!

-Viv-

[philBo]

lol..yeah...i guess you have to know when to be aggressive and when to let it slide...well said

[aaronng]

I'm not so sure aaronng. Webber was there, Schumacher cut him off. Webber was 2sec per lap faster than Schumacher. But in the end it didn't matter, 'cos they were both doomed anyway. I can't really blame Michael, 'cos it would've been hard to know where Webber was (he still could have left some room, 'cos Webber was closing fast!!), but also once Webber had committed to the pass, there was no way out. We all know how hard Schumacher defends his position, it was always going to take a good move to get past. Unfortunate. You cannot blame Webber for going for it, he made a great move, got the line and then Michael chopped him off.

But then the next lap, Michael was stupid and almost took out Fisichella when he was limping back to the pits!! Bad driving. Maybe he should go with Sato to the "How to use your mirrors" course.

And Montoya got infront of Monteiro but cut right across infront and stomped on the brakes. Not much Monteiro could do. The McLaren stops a lot better than the Jordan. Stupid mistake from Montoya. There was just no need to pull back across!

BEST RACE OF THE SEASON!!! Best race by a long way. Finally there's a track which actually challenges the drivers. They really had to work for it in Turkey and there was actually overtaking!! Best track in F1 and what a debut for the event.

I'm happy for Montoya's mistake, 'cos it means I tipped the top 3!! WOOHOO!!

-Viv-

Yes, Webber was faster. And if he was 2 seconds faster, he could have overtaken Schumacher at a better corner. This is not the first time Webber has pulled this move and crashed into the other car. Remember Sepang GP? Same thing. Webber is too aggressive for his own good. He doesn't weigh the risks associated with overtaking in that particular corner. He's acting like how Sato was 2 years ago, overtaking and crashing into other cars.

As I said, the drivers who are at the top of the ranks are there because they don't pull these stunts and therefore rarely retire.