2005 Italian Grand Prix - Monza (discussion)

**^^v** · 06-09-2005 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by enoch

agreed, alonso is a mofo and don't deserve the championship. at spa he's gonna crash and break a leg.
if BAR kicks sato because of "poor performance", im gonna buy a mazda.

ahahahaaa nicely put

**joshen** · 06-09-2005 10:41 AM

poor alonso, he does what he's asked to do and gets bagged on. anyway is it just me or is his head really huge?? like literally??

when it comes to mclaren I would say that JPM has had just about as bad of luck as kimmi has this year.

**Hondavirgin** · 06-09-2005 10:49 AM

I think Alonso has done enough to deserve the championship..... out of 15 rounds he has 12 top 4 placings....

6 Wins
4 2nds
1 3rd
1 4th

Consistency like that deserves a championship. As i said before, if Kimi's car keeps breaking maybe they are driving it too hard, and its sustainable pace is considerably less? Just a thought, it could just be extreme bad luck....

As for my argument against Webber, its not so much the side by side pit action (though squeezing sato over the white line is a bit rough) its the fact he drove THROUGH his pitboard guy, who has a much better idea of the surroundings and what the crew is doing, its dangerous (cue Top Gun quote "you're dangerous" *snap (points for guessing that one).

And that's f*ckin ridiculous hoping someone will break a leg.

**aaronng** · 06-09-2005 11:22 AM

Alonso is fast. To get to the front you have to be fast. Consistent yes. You an be consistent and not fast and get 5th place for every race too. So since Alonso has got many 1st and 2nd place wins, he is fast and consistent.

Kimi is faster but not consistent (both the car and his ability to extend the reliability of his car. Montoya's car doesn't break down as often)

**^^v** · 06-09-2005 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by joshen

poor alonso, he does what he's asked to do and gets bagged on. anyway is it just me or is his head really huge?? like literally??

when it comes to mclaren I would say that JPM has had just about as bad of luck as kimmi has this year.

yeah hes got a pretty big jaw line... its starting to fuse with his chest ...

u reckon ?
imo kimis had nearly twice as much bad luck as monty... just look at all the DNF's

**aaronng** · 06-09-2005 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by ^^v

yeah hes got a pretty big jaw line... its starting to fuse with his chest ...

That's why he wins. His body has evolved to handle high side-G loads. Hahahhaa.

**nEUROtic** · 06-09-2005 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by joshen

poor alonso, he does what he's asked to do and gets bagged on. anyway is it just me or is his head really huge?? like literally??

when it comes to mclaren I would say that JPM has had just about as bad of luck as kimmi has this year.

Hello, I've been saying his head is huge for months :P What took you all so long to notice its like an orange on a toothpick

**LUD02C** · 06-09-2005 03:46 PM

Alonso is doing a Richard Burns.
Getting a World Championship for being consistent.
I believe Burns won the WDC and never won an entire rally.

If Kimi didn't have Jacques or that damm Toyota in his way, 2nd was his!
Also, how good was Fisichella?
If I was Ferrari I think Fisichella would rank higher then Massa, Ferrari will be back next year boys!

**LUD02C** · 06-09-2005 03:57 PM

You also have Michelin saying they want to get rid of some teams (two i think), will Red Bull and Williams be those two?

Maybe BAR or McLaren might jump ship.
Solution, 1 tyre supplier!

**Hondavirgin** · 06-09-2005 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by LUD02C

Also, how good was Fisichella?

Never recognised by the commentators! makes me angry!

I agree that Michelin needs to lose some teams but i like the different tyre manufacturers, makes it interesting and different manufacturers do better at different tracks....

I'm paranoid about F1 turning into indy or CART or whatever the hell its called, i.e. control tyres, very similar cars etc....