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    Question Is my rings gone ?

    my car has white smoke whenever I started, and sometime smoke out when accelerate. I am losing oil but it didn't smell like burning oil that much...

    Is my cyl rings gone ? How much would they set me back ?

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    you should get a "compression test" done to determin your problem.
    B20VTEC - since 2002

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    Make sure you don't have an oil leak either from your oil seals

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    Is any garage mechanic can do this ? At which reading we can tell they need to be replaced ? Thanks guys.

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    A compression test involves removing your spark plugs and fitting a special pressure gauge(bit like a turbo boost gauage) and reading how much your pistons can compress the air/fuel mixture. Anything below 100psi is usually bad on a non-turbo car, below 60 is terminal.

    There is a fair amount of labour involved in fitting new rings, as it requires most of the motor to be dis-assembled. I would say ATLEAST 10 hours labour, from memory. Factory in new gaskets, timing belt and oil seals for reliabilty suddenly your talking $1000 plus.
    There are some special oil additives that you could add to try and get some more life out of the rings / engine.

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    could also be valve stem seals

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    If your in Sydney Town check this out coze my ring's were f**ked

    http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30792

    Cheer's Luke
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    I just got my timing bell and water pump replaced two months ago. I shouldn't change those right ? and where Mr Robert @ hanny is ? BTW, I am in Sydney.

    Can he check my car out and tell me if I need to change rings ? Any idea how much does this consultancy cost ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECU-MAN
    could also be valve stem seals
    How can we tell if it is Valve stem seals ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacemaster
    How can we tell if it is Valve stem seals ?
    Leak down test should do it that

    Comp test for the rings

    Mine were 950 dry and 1300 wet on all cyls worn even but still losing to much oil for my liking

    Quote Originally Posted by spacemaster
    I just got my timing bell and water pump replaced two months ago. I shouldn't change those right ? and where Mr Robert @ hanny is ? BTW, I am in Sydney.
    Can he check my car out and tell me if I need to change rings ? Any idea how much does this consultancy cost ?
    hanny's performance

    owner :Mr Robert
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    Just call and ask man

    Cheer's Luke
    Last edited by Lukezen27; 24-10-2005 at 06:49 PM.
    161.4KW ATW Tuned By TODA
    EG5 JDM B16A SiR-II TURBO

    13.28@106.6mph 2.117 60ft On RE001

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    i believe the rings are gone.
    this problem happened to my brothers EG b4....
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    go open the oil cap with the engine on... when the rings are gone, you'll usually see puffs of smoke coming out of the valve cover

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