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  1. #1
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    clutch buzz and master cylinder problems

    heard about the clutch buzz and master cylinder problems in the 99 models

    did this also carry on into the 2000 models? if so is it all those models? any idea what month they were rectified?

    reason being im looking at 2000 and 2001 model s2000s atm and im leaning towards the 2000 model as it has less kms but i would rather the 01 model with higher kms if the 00 model has the clutch buzz problem

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    also wondering if anyone has the list of TSB for the S2000?

    and if anyone has had experience in dealing with a dealership in fixing a TSB when warranty has already expired?

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    TSB 054 deals with the clutch buzz

    TSB 037 deals with foggy rear plastic window

    has anyone got any TSBs fixed?

    a full list is below

    Safety Recalls
    TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title
    00-020 FEB 00 Recall - Convertable Top Cover

    Service Bulletins
    TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title
    01-008 MAR 02 Body - Driver's Window Won't Go All The Way Down
    00-054 NOV 01 M/T - Buzz/Rattle on Deceleration
    98-061 NOV 01 A/T - In-Warranty Exchange Program
    99-078 OCT 01 Vehicle - PDI & New Model Information
    00-088 AUG 01 Brake Discs - Refinishing Guidelines
    98-011 AUG 01 Keyless Entry - Transmitter
    01-038 MAR 01 Convertible Top Cover - Comes Loose
    00-054 DEC 00 Engine/Transmission - Buzzing on Deceleration
    00-099 DEC 00 Wiring Terminal - Repair Instructions
    00-088 NOV 00 Brake Rotor - Refinishing Guidelines
    00-083 OCT 00 Heater Unit - Water Drips Onto Passenger's Carpet
    00-089 OCT 00 Supplemental Restraint System - Inspection
    00-048 SEP 00 Convertible Top Rear Window Replacement - Manual Update
    00-055 SEP 00 M/T - Grinding When Shifting Into 2nd Gear
    00-063 AUG 00 Special Tool - Chassis EAR(TM), Diagnostic Tool
    00-057 JUL 00 CD Player - Sound Cuts Out at High Volume
    00-049 JUL 00 Immobilizer System - Type 2: Operation/Part Replacement
    99-053 JUN 00 Immobilizer Key - Key Code Duplicator
    00-050 JUN 00 Accessory Floor Mat - Anchor Moves From Side to Side
    99-018 APR 00 Required Special Tools And Equipment,
    00-037 APR 00 Convertable Top Rear Window - Creased, Cloudy, Scratched
    98-019 MAR 00 Audio Unit - Warranty Exhange/Out of Warranty Repair
    00-015 MAR 00 Audio Unit with CD Player/Changer - Error Codes
    00-032 MAR 00 Paint Codes
    00-022 MAR 00 Torque Converter Oil Seal - Installation Tool
    97-015 DEC 99 Service Publications - Availability & Ordering
    98-031 NOV 99 Aftermarket On Board Diagnostic (OBD) || Tester
    99-062 OCT 99 Paint Damage From Environmental Fallout
    99-030 MAY 99 Recommended Materials
    98-051 AUG 98 Special Tool Loan Program

  4. #4
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    TSB 054 deals with the clutch buzz
    TSB 037 deals with foggy rear plastic window
    083 OCT 00 Heater Unit - Water Drips Onto Passenger's Carpet

    These are the only problems ive experienced in the 3 years ive had my car. The window got so foggy and stiff that one night it actually cracked whilst putting the roof up. My car was out of warranty,honda didnt want to know me, so i found an auto trimmer who replaced it.

    The "clutch buzz" apparently is the gears vibrating or buzzing due to the springs in the clutch disc. I find it only happens during down gearing when the car is being pushed for a while. Its easy to live with (IMO). A few have replaced the clutch with later model OEM clutches and have got rid of the buzz, others have found it to come back in time. I'll be replacing mine in the next few weeks with a TODA disc, so i guess time will tell.

    I had the water drip happen to me the other day. The hose actually became disconnected. Its a little exposed and could have gotten this way with a swift kick from a passenger or, it could be the way i throw my bag in the foot well. It was an easy fix, i re-attached the hose and zip tied it.

    I wouldnt let the list deter u from ure purchase. The later the model u buy the less u have to worry about. It quite obvious even with the 03's, compared to the early models like mine, all the little creases and bugs have been picked up and ironed out. Just get the best example u can find within ure budget. All the little things are easily forgoten and u'll find, its something u dont even think of.
    Last edited by WhiteAP1; 05-07-2006 at 12:26 AM.

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    Ur right AP1.. once ur blasting it in the red zone no creak or buzz will be louder than the engine revving at 9000rpm...

    i 100% agree with AP1... get the best one for ur budget..

    i got a black 2000 model with red interior and it was pretty immaculate..
    spend a bit of time waiting for a good one.. and u know u can always bargain down ppl...

    AP1 good choice on parts... TODA is the only way to go in Honda's.. i advise u to get a lightened flywheel from us too.. big difference on the take off..
    ur car looks pretty nice mate.. its very well done.. i wanted a white one with red interior but there were none in sydney that were good..

    to give u more assurance, all the probs with the older models like mine are very small.. nothin detrimental to the car so its all good.. easily fixed anywayz..
    Last edited by blusir2; 15-07-2006 at 02:18 PM.

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    way ahead of u, got the flywheel when i got the clutch,well it was the other way around, got the flywheel and thought i might as well get the clutch. Going TODA headers aswell (4.62 final drive going in first though) Gotta agree TODA's the shit.

    My avatar's not actually my car, that belongs to J's racing, a few ppl have said that though. should really get my own car up there hey
    Last edited by WhiteAP1; 15-07-2006 at 02:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicken8
    heard about the clutch buzz and master cylinder problems in the 99 models

    did this also carry on into the 2000 models?
    Just so you know, the cars sold from August 1999 are considered MY2000. The same way as the glass window was introduced in MY2002 but was available from late 2001. The clutch was changed in mid-2001 IIRC so I expect it effects all MY2000 and most MY2001s.

  8. #8
    Clutch buzz....sounds bad but it aint....if not check all the bolts on the heat shield. I had a loose bolt and it rattled a bit.

  9. #9
    lol reviving this thread.

    can i get a definite answer, will swapping out the old clutch with an aftermarket clutch get rid of clutch buzz?

    and if not, what do you do to get rid of clutch buzz?

    thanks

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    Yes..... but it may come back if you use the Honda OEM replacement.

    Just upgrade to an Exedy HD.
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    PM's Turned Off

    Prelude - Sold.
    S2000 - Sold.
    NSX - Sold.
    F355 - Coming...

  11. #11
    thanks buddy,
    that's all i was after.

    but how come people say that it gets worse when you go aftermarket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickasse View Post
    thanks buddy,
    how come people say that it gets worse when you go aftermarket?
    Cos they're full of sh!t.

    No seriously, the clutch buzz is actually a rattle in your gearbox caused by the particular tension in the early OEM springs. You won't get it with a current OEM, nor and Exedy HD (which is what the current OEM is). Whether you'll get it with a Ogura Super Carbon Six Puck is completely unknown and would be the last of your worries.

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