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    State sues car firms on climate - GM, Toyota, Ford, Honda, Chrysler & Nissan

    Taken from BBC news:
    The state of California is suing six carmakers for costs associated with their cars' greenhouse gas emissions.

    The suit names General Motors, Toyota, Ford, Honda, Chrysler and Nissan.

    California is asking for "monetary compensation" for the damage which it says their emissions are doing to health, economy and environment.

    The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers (AAM), a pan-industry body, called it a "nuisance" suit and suggested it may be dismissed.

    "Right now, global warming is harming California," runs the state's complaint.

    "Human-induced global warming has, among other things, reduced California's snow pack (a vital source of fresh water), caused an earlier melting of the snow pack, raised sea levels along California's coastline, increased ozone pollution in urban areas, [and] increased the threat of wildfires."

    State lawyers want any judgement for damages to be ongoing, so that manufacturers will be liable every year.

    Guto Hari, the BBC's North American business correspondent, notes that California has taken an aggressive stance on global warming, passing legislation to significantly reduce carbon dioxide emissions by 2020.

    'Time to answer'

    The lawsuit, lodged on behalf of the Californian people by state attorney-general Bill Lockyer, alleges that emissions from cars made by the firms in question account for 30% of all carbon dioxide emissions in California.


    It is time to hold these companies responsible for their contribution to this crisis
    Bill Lockyer
    state attorney-general

    The complaint alleges that the firms' activities have harmed the state's environmental health, with California having to spend million of dollars responding to environmental threats such as coastal erosion.

    Mr Lockyer said he had not put a figure of the level of damages he was seeking but that it was likely to run into "hundreds of millions of dollars".

    "Global warming is causing significant harm to California's environment, economy, agriculture and public health," he added.

    "The impacts are already costing millions of dollars and the price tag is increasing. It is time to hold these companies responsible for their contribution to this crisis."

    'Most significant'

    This is the latest in a series of legal and quasi-legal cases in the US aimed at forcing reductions in greenhouse gas emissions

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    * An Inuit group is taking the federal government to the Inter-American Commission for Human Rights

    * Conservation groups are trying to force the government to protect coral and polar bears from the effects of global warming

    * There are ongoing attempts to force the Environmental Protection Agency to define CO2 as a pollutant and regulate emissions

    Roda Verheyen of Climate Justice, an international organisation which co-ordinates legal climate cases, said California's suit took action to a new level.

    "It is the most significant piece of climate change litigation that has ever been brought," she said.

    Car manufacturers have their own case against California pending over laws requiring them to reduce emissions.

    The AAM said in a statement: "Automakers will need time to review this legal complaint [by California], however, a similar nuisance suit that was brought by attorneys-general against utilities was dismissed by a federal court in New York."
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    I was a bit surprised to see Honda in the list, along with Toyota. I mean Honda is actively pursuing hybrid technology, it has most of it's lineup meeting the stringent ULEV standards that California requires and is continually trying to engage in alternative fuels (Honda FCX?). Wonder if this case will be dismissed like the other nuisance suit mentioned in the article.

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    State of California just wants money. Anyway, they should find that all vehicles sold will comply to Californian emissions requirement that was set by the state, so the court might not be able to punish automakers since they did follow by the rules set by the state.
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    Governer Arnie has had one too many blows to the head lol

    They should be targetting the car companies making fat V8 SUV's and trucks (such as the hummer), not efficient cars like honda's and toyota's..

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    thats the biggest load of bull i've heard in a long time

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    Good on ya arnie... now drive to work in your fleet of hummers while you try to blame a poor 16 year old kid in his 89 honda civic for all your states problems

    this is rediculous... if the state allows the cars to be sold then the public should be suing them if it's affecting them so much

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    humph! americans and their 'suing everything that moves' style

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroDude
    They should be targetting the car companies making fat V8 SUV's and trucks (such as the hummer)
    notice the first brand on the list?

    hummer = GM


    the list is basically the 6 largest auto sellers in the state


    either way, it's rediculous and makes me embarassed to be associated with it.

    furthermore, I'm yet to see anything that suggests arnie had much to do with this. Considering his republican ties, I hardly could see him making an attack that could get back to big oil.

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    California's emission limits have always been the tightest in the world, even before Arnie became governor.
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    True... the emissions laws here are rediculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxman
    True... the emissions laws here are rediculous
    Is it true that the tight emission laws were passed because of the smog due to the high density of vehicles per square mile in California?
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    Anyone seen Inconvenient Truth?....
    I think it helps puts this issue more in perspective.
    Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent..... 14% of people know that.



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