Continuous VTEC developed by Honda [25-9-2006]

**EuroDude** · 28-09-2006 12:23 PM

We could probably expect performance for the single vtec cam to be around 140kw up from 125kw, and the double vtec cam at around 155kw up from 140kw

**aaronng** · 28-09-2006 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by EuroDude

We could probably expect performance for the single vtec cam to be around 140kw up from 125kw, and the double vtec cam at around 155kw up from 140kw

Why would performance increase just because of advanced VTEC? All I can expect is that the changeover would be less obvious (like it isn't already discreet enough on the k24a3) and that there would be no dips in the torque curve.

Power is not made by VTEC.

**WhiteAP1** · 28-09-2006 01:52 PM

The 350z also has constant VVT

**aaronng** · 28-09-2006 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteAP1

The 350z also has constant VVT

350z's VVT is just cam phasing. That's the same as VTC and Toyota's VVTi.

**ozR18** · 28-09-2006 07:13 PM

Honda are always coming up with new more advanced cam phasing engines, ie Vtec,i-Vtec and now Advanced Vtec .Just out of curiousity, has Honda actually won any engine awards??Not really sure

If im not mistake the BMW V10 M5 engine won the top engine awards right...and Nissan VQ family engine has been in the top 10 for 8th consecutive years.

**aaronng** · 28-09-2006 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by ozR18

Honda are always coming up with new more advanced cam phasing engines, ie Vtec,i-Vtec and now Advanced Vtec .Just out of curiousity, has Honda actually won any engine awards??Not really sure

If im not mistake the BMW V10 M5 engine won the top engine awards right...and Nissan VQ family engine has been in the top 10 for 8th consecutive years.

Too bad there is no award for engine reliability. Honda would win that. The BMW's V10 is not that reliable as mentioned on Top Gear.

**CoZZm0** · 30-09-2006 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

Too bad there is no award for engine reliability. Honda would win that. The BMW's V10 is not that reliable as mentioned on Top Gear.

what goes wrong with the V10 M5 motors? is it a common type fault?

**aaronng** · 30-09-2006 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by CoZZm0

what goes wrong with the V10 M5 motors? is it a common type fault?

It's not common. But it does happen. Unlike honda engines where the worst thing that happens is you burn lots of oil. BMW engine problems tend to be more serious.

BMW acknowledges their problems though. The 335ci's in the US that have shot a rod out the block are having their engines replaced with new ones and even older models like the old 850ci V12 get a free replacement block even when out of warranty!

**BusterSonic12** · 02-10-2006 09:42 AM

sweet... advance vtec. prolly going to b in the '07 euro.

**tanalasta** · 20-11-2006 10:49 PM

More likely to be on the 2009 Euro in Australia than the 2007 Euro according to the current rumours. The only update we will be seeing under than the horrible mocha colour already on the market is the Diesel Euro.

It will be a completely new model before we see the brand new shape and engine. I suppose Honda is milking the current (and excellent) chassis and drivetrain for as long as they can! Longer product cycles = less money spent creating new models

**aaronng** · 20-11-2006 11:17 PM

From all the rumours from all the TSX forums, we seem to be looking at an SH-AWD k23a turbo TSX. If that becomes the Euro, then we won't get Advanced VTEC. Anyway, on the K24A3, Advanced VTEC won't make extra power. It's limited above 5000rpm by breathing.