Better brake feel

[spetz]

What effects brake feel?

Can someone tell me what advantages a larger mast cylinder would make?
What about the slave cylinder?

I like brakes that feel firm, but bite with little pressure to the pedal, and with little travel

What would get that?

[Slow96GSR]

Well brakes are weird that when you put a smaller master cylinder you get better braking with less force. I guess I'll have to type up when my college textbooks say as they explain it really well.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...fluid/ch1j.htm

Basically the figure shows you, piston 1, pushing with 100 lbs of force. The hydraulic force multiplies by a lot and shoots up to 1500 lbs on the medium piston and 3k on the large one. They say 10 psi per square inch.

Here is the index for it all, fluid dynamics I guess some would call it. If you need more info let us know.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...fluid/ch1j.htm

[turtleEK1]

don't steel braided brake lines make a difference in the feel of the pedal becasue it eliminates the ballooning of the stock brake lines?

anyone help confirm?

[Slow96GSR]

Not until higher temps come in to play, like when you are racing on a street track. Normal road driving really doesn't need steel braid.

[dsp26]

^^not really, regardless how good your MC is, if you slam your breaks the factory rubber hoses will get a massive surge and flex... but yes due to heat expansion thats also true.

it's perfect though, coz when you replace ALL 4 hoses you'd have to bleed them all anyway so may as well get decent brake fluid.

also, SS lines are nowhere near as effective if you only get the fronts, flex will just be transferred to the rear hoses despite MC bias.

I've driven many cars with them from cold start... having SS lines all round is comparable to say accel pedal feel of a car with solid engine mounts all round...

[94vtirozguy]

SS brake lines improve brake feel

[aaronng]

SS brake lines improve brake feel only at the limit or at high temperature. The best way to improve brake feel is to add a brake master cylinder brace and to change brake fluid before it breaks down.

[dsp26]

^^^thats a good point, didn't know of that brace till Hot4s issue this month that covered it on the r34.

i may just fabricate a custom one... its essentially a clamp anyways.....

[BlitZ]

The best way to improve brake feel is to add a brake master cylinder brace ....

True, however its only a feeling.. doesnt help you brake any better..

Just a sensation like you are invincible...its like popping an e

[aaronng]

True, however its only a feeling.. doesnt help you brake any better..

That's why I said brake feel.

[A'PEXi]

lol 300 for better feel, your better off buying some better pads :P

[aaronng]

lol 300 for better feel, your better off buying some better pads :P

That's some expensive brake cylinder stopper there. They are $119-149 for the Cusco.