DC5R Vs DC5S

**Mattski_VTIR** · 09-11-2007 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by XP02ED

Yes it is... but if you want a luxurious car why would you be an S? or matter a fact an integra? rather a euro?

Thats like saying why buy an M3 when u u can buy a normal 5 series... there's a market for Luxury Sports Cars as much as some people hate to admit it, and i think the Type S does a good job of catering to both Crowds.

**XP02ED** · 09-11-2007 03:22 PM

thats true.. i admit theres lux sports cars.. but just how people are saying its better coz its more luxurious?

its funny.. coz if you chuck an exhaust into either car.. its a different story.. you hear the annoying noise.. ;D

i think both cars have there potential and i can't see 1 beating the other by alot with similar mods.. there both designed by honda.. with minor changes.. the wing makes an R what its known for..

**Mattski_VTIR** · 09-11-2007 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by XP02ED

thats true.. i admit theres lux sports cars.. but just how people are saying its better coz its more luxurious?

its funny.. coz if you chuck an exhaust into either car.. its a different story.. you hear the annoying noise.. ;D

i think both cars have there potential and i can't see 1 beating the other by alot with similar mods.. there both designed by honda.. with minor changes.. the wing makes an R what its known for..

To say one is better than the other is purley an opinion, Different cars for different people and needs! I dont see why people try so hard to compare the S and R. They were aimed at a different demographic and do a great job just in different ways!

**Type S Tony** · 09-11-2007 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by XP02ED

Yes it is... but if you want a luxurious car why would you be an S? or matter a fact an integra? rather a euro?

Cause I wanted something that moved and that was also comfy!

**matt** · 09-11-2007 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Type S Tony

Look Guys,

It looks like next week Wednesday ill be heading out to WSID with my friend and his Type R,

Ill settle the issue once we get the results and well have to let the time cards do all the talking.

driver skill is going to play a bigger factor in the results than the car will.

i own a DC5R and have driven a DC5S, both very similar at the end of the day when it comes down to just driving.
owner preference will really decide which is more suitable, some will like the R for the recaros etc, some will like the S for the more luxurious feel.

**dark138** · 10-11-2007 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by Type S Tony

The only point I tried to make here is that if the Type S is a fraction quicker, Is more Luxurious, Is a smoother ride, Is a better looking car & is somewhat easier to drive doesnt that make it all round a better car than the Type R?

The Name of the thread is DC5R "VS" DC5S is it not.

I really don't like quoting people coz it seems like a personal attack.

Easier to drive

no doubt, even my gf drives the S as her daily.
Smoother ride

yup definately not as rough as the R! Lighter steeing + sunroof. Not to mention that leather totally burns skin in summer.
Better Looking

thats debatable!

**JJ-LOVER** · 10-11-2007 03:35 AM

i found from carsales.com.au and it told me that type s tare mass is 1230kg got 154kw and type r is 1160kg got 147kw for the power weight ratio are 125.2kw/kg(type s) and 126.7kw/kg(type r).....actually they are really close in shock condition. honda stop selling their type R and start selling type S in aus becoz the AUDM DC5R is actually a type S of coz the new type S should be a little bit better(got 7kw gain).....AUDM DC5R's k20a2 is tune up from rsx engine only so its not a real type r actually.....well i am a AUDM DC5R's owner and i wanna protect our type r honor as well but thats the fact the only thing is i am so disappointing to honda that selling us a car such like that!!!!!

**JJ-LOVER** · 10-11-2007 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Type S Tony

Hi,

I have just picked up a type S earlier on this week,

I find that it is much more comfortable smoother and quicker than the type R,

I have given it a squirt up againts one of my friends comming back to sydney on the M4 who was in a Type R & I found that i just kept pulling away from him hands down.

Sorry to dissapiont anyone but thats just the absolute truth.

The facts are that the Type S is a much more luxurious vehicle with more power and smoother power delivery. I also find that the rear looks a little cleaner than the Type R.

What is everyone' else's thoughts on this?

Regards,

well sometime i dont wanna speeding or waste my petrol even a dc2 gsi can pulling me away....i didnt waste my petrol to hit my vtec and he won make both happy^^
i am not saying that u are in the same case but maybe one of possible~~~

**FN2TypeR** · 10-11-2007 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by JJ-LOVER

i am so disappointing to honda that selling us a car such like that!!!!!

Times have changed. Honda will not produce a "raw" or "real" Type R for a small minority of die hard fans on Ozhonda having a whinge about getting ripped off. Honda is a business and a business is supposed to attract a wider target market in hope for a larger return to its shareholders. Spending billions of dollars on Research and Development for a "raw and hardcore" Type R for a small market would be nonsensical. Of course, if wide sampling market research suggests that the benefits would outweigh the costs of doing so then it would be feasible.

And don't tell me that there is a large share of Ozhonda people that would tick the yes box for one. Ozhonda members as a proportion of the Australian population? Do the maths.

Australia is just not the market for it. We love our leather seats, sunroof, smoothness, power and 9/10 Australians would never even take their car to the track etc.

SO PLEASE, stop the whinging about the lack of 'real type R' and selling Australians a ripped off version of what a Type R is supposed to be. All factors are considered and their analysis has probably shown that their business risks are best mitigated by tailoring their products to a specific market, namely, Australia.

(This is not targeted at you specifically by the way, it's to all the people on Ozhonda having a cry about not getting the real Type R and getting disappointed that the DC5R didn't live up to the DC2R etc)

**m0nty ITR** · 10-11-2007 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by JJ-LOVER

well i am a AUDM DC5R's owner and i wanna protect our type r honor as well but thats the fact the only thing is i am so disappointing to honda that selling us a car such like that!!!!!

It's not hard to get an AUDM DC5R to produce JDM power. Just get a set of good headers and exhaust and a CAI and you're pretty much there.

Sure, the AUDM DC5R isn't up to spec of the JDM but all this talk about a gimped version is pretty frustrating. The majority of people here have modded theirs beyond JDM spec anyway so what's the problem?