not just for looks with the offset a lot wider the car handle so much better and much more easy to turn. a lot better to drive. and no more body roll
= much faster getting in and out of corners
= good value.
Thanks for the comments guys. Upgrading to 15" alloys would improve grip by a fair amount I would imagine and I might consider that when it comes time to change tyres. I don't mind spending a lot for tyres but don't want to spend too much on rims, so if anyone upgrades their VTIs rims give me a holler if you want to offload them.
It still begs the question though, with so many people changing wheels, etc. what wheel alignment settings did you use?!?!?!?? I can't find the factory specs anywhere on the net.
More and more people are paying premiums for stock equipment. All a part of the JDM trend, I guess. What I am getting at is, unless you're a part of that JDM/stock look crew, you could get even lighter aftermarket rims for the same price. Rim weights really do improve steering response and handling in general. I'd pay a lot of attention to the weights of the rims if I were you.
Can't agree with you more on lightweight rims but these are generally expensive and I would have thought some second hand OEM rims would be really cheap considering people are upgrading, etc. Never knew there was a JDM stock trend pushing up prices though!
Can't agree with you more on lightweight rims but these are generally expensive and I would have thought some second hand OEM rims would be really cheap considering people are upgrading, etc. Never knew there was a JDM stock trend pushing up prices though!
lightweight rims is worth it!!! if you not just paying for the Brand... can change the feel of driving... most can be 1/2 the weight of stock rims, which = quicker car = more fuel Econ
Get Spoon Progressive Springs and Dampers. Did wonders for my wife's Jazz. Corners so much better, its lost that "tall" feeling. She's running 16" wheels with 205/45R16 tyres and it handles and corners MUCH better than stock.
Thanks Claymore! Not many non-sports cars are adjustable at the rears so I was expecting that anyway. -1 degree for the rear is fine. Giving the front -1 degree (up from zero) camber would cure the understeer somewhat and hopefully give the car more balance mid-corner. Definitely needs more caster which should give a bit more feel and probably explains why the Jazz steering isn't really willing to self-centre at the moment. Would any wheel alignment place have the smaller pinch bolts or do I need to order them from somewhere else?
hey blackie , make sure you give us an update when you get all this done mate . As im looking forward to see the progress on what a simple wheel alighment can do
I'm stepping in here with both feet firmly in my mouth - It's been a lonnnngg time since I played with handling options on anything, (but I keep getting booked for getting my Jazz a little out of shape so I'm looking for answers too). My pre Honda cars used their doors handles as body roll limit stops (before flush door handles - yeah, yeah, there was such a thing - they did exist). I always thought that fitting sway bars to the rear was the LAST step - fix the front, where much of the weight transfer occurs during cornering and control the sway there first, then look at the rear. Otherwise you just end up lifting inside rear wheels when getting enthusiastic in the bendy bits. Right, now I've got my target shirt on - shoot.
Ted
Originally Posted by JasonGilholme
If your after a big handling improvement, go for an upgraded rear sway bar with heavy duty mounts.
You'll never look back.
After you have your fun with that the tyres should be worn out and ready for you to get new ones
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