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yes honda can get 180KW easy...
Look at the S2000... 2L motor with 180KW....
they just don't want to do it... coz it might cost an extra 500$...
anyhow... hey perry... you must work with Adrian... tell him "Butt Launcher" says hi...
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they dont want to do it because they have different classes
it would be stupid for manufacturers to make every car have the same power.
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They are different classes
one is FWD and one is RWD... big difference...
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Originally Posted by Mark B
Look at the S2000... 2L motor with 180KW....
they just don't want to do it... coz it might cost an extra 500$...
anyhow... hey perry... you must work with Adrian... tell him "Butt Launcher" says hi...
$500 won't get you 180kW... It might get you 150kW... or maybe 152kW
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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ohhhh
I mean it would prob cost honda another 500$..... if they are making 100,000 engins or so... i'm not talking 500$ of after market mods... that would maybe get you 5Kw if your lucky.... you get my drift ??
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saw it in the flesh... its hot pplz!! type R brakes, noice ass interior, and the exhaust isnt triangular, the exhaust tips sits inside the triangles.. just incase ne1 gave a damn..
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Originally Posted by Mark B
I mean it would prob cost honda another 500$..... if they are making 100,000 engins or so... i'm not talking 500$ of after market mods... that would maybe get you 5Kw if your lucky.... you get my drift ??
I am talking about production costs. The cost to balance, port and polish will cost more than $500 per engine.
When they start using lightweight internals, the cost will be even higher.
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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Originally Posted by matt
which is where i believe honda has gone down the wrong path a little, Type R's should still be without all this crap. all these softc**ks wanting a performance car that feels like a luxury car inside
its a natural journey for cars to go down this path mate.
think about it, you expect your car to have power windows, abs brakes, power steering, Aircon, even airbags, these are all options we expect in a car these days...
you could remove all of these features and you would have a lighter faster car ... but would you want to remove it all for a daily driver? and do you think Honda would sell any cars without it? even as an option... the price tag would jump 10 grand!!
new options in cars are always being introduced, and it would be silly of honda to ignore it. ppl's expectations are always growing, and now we want curtain airbags etc etc
not exactly like they are a bunch of soft cocks complaining ..
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Originally Posted by preludacris
its a natural journey for cars to go down this path mate.
think about it, you expect your car to have power windows, abs brakes, power steering, Aircon, even airbags, these are all options we expect in a car these days...
you could remove all of these features and you would have a lighter faster car ... but would you want to remove it all for a daily driver? and do you think Honda would sell any cars without it? even as an option... the price tag would jump 10 grand!!
new options in cars are always being introduced, and it would be silly of honda to ignore it. ppl's expectations are always growing, and now we want curtain airbags etc etc
not exactly like they are a bunch of soft cocks complaining ..
could not agree more...
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no... don't like the look of the rear..
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Why dont they sell it as a "Type S" or something!? To me a "Honda Type R" is a stripped out, basic, handbuilt, Road registered race car!
Some people want a harsh, noisy, unforgiving car! (Hello Lotus Elise)
Type R's have been getting softer and softer over the years, think of the reputation of DC2R and EK9! They had journalists and racers in a lather over their rawness and performance straight off the showroom floor! then came the "softer & luxurious" DC5R and EP3 and their more comfortable and forgiving nature (but I still want an EP3). It looks like the Type R name/legacy is going downhill from there!
Dont get me wrong, im sure this will be a brilliant little car and I like that Honda are having a go at it, but it should be a Type S not R, it just doesn't have the family jewels to be a Type R!
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Originally Posted by Spicey
Why dont they sell it as a "Type S" or something!? To me a "Honda Type R" is a stripped out, basic, handbuilt, Road registered race car!
Some people want a harsh, noisy, unforgiving car! (Hello Lotus Elise)
Type R's have been getting softer and softer over the years, think of the reputation of DC2R and EK9! They had journalists and racers in a lather over their rawness and performance straight off the showroom floor! then came the "softer & luxurious" DC5R and EP3 and their more comfortable and forgiving nature (but I still want an EP3). It looks like the Type R name/legacy is going downhill from there!
Dont get me wrong, im sure this will be a brilliant little car and I like that Honda are having a go at it, but it should be a Type S not R, it just doesn't have the family jewels to be a Type R!
That's how it is. Even the Elise now has airconditioning, a CD player and even carpets!!!
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