JUN vs. TODA: Camshafts

**jdmTYPE R** · 08-04-2007 01:18 AM

i wouldnt go for brands i would go for cams that work and reliable.... pm dynodave he has tested heaps of cams on different engines he can tell u what cams will work with your setup ..... both cams u sellected r good cams but used of different application..

**AsH_** · 08-04-2007 01:37 AM

might see wat he says...

ive just always for some reason been attracted to toda...

the guy i got my car from works for toda...

**ZeForce** · 08-04-2007 02:34 AM

Check this out....

http://www.importreview.com/reviews/...n3VStyper.html

**aaronng** · 08-04-2007 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by todas**t

yes but wen u put spec C in it will kick in later

No it won't. VTEC changeover point depends on your ECU.

**locote** · 08-04-2007 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by ZeForce

Check this out....

http://www.importreview.com/reviews/...n3VStyper.html

A vafc was used to tune....
Not really the greatest tuning tool for after market cams..
Thats prob why the ITR cam did so well...

**DynoDave** · 08-04-2007 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by jdmTYPE R

i wouldnt go for brands i would go for cams that work and reliable.... pm dynodave he has tested heaps of cams on different engines he can tell u what cams will work with your setup ..... both cams u sellected r good cams but used of different application..

Yes I will say it one more time there really are no cams better than any other's these days you must build the RIGHT COMBINATION of parts (to Quote Toda AU and he is 100% correct)when doing mods to your engine every manufacturer is going to say there's are better than the other brands.You really have to look at the big picture when chosing cams for your car and engine as
gearbox ratio's,wheel tire sizes,cars weight,do you have the rest of the bolts ons or internals to support bigger cams do you have a ECU that can help in making the cams good to drive around town and make power when you need it.From what I have seen myself on the dyno most guys just buy a known brand cam without really thinking is it the right cam/cams for them and yes I have used many brands and do have some cams that impress me with all round performance but are called junk by alot of so called guru's of the Honda internet forums because they are cheap and come out of China but when they are spec'd up they are just a copy of a cam that is worth 5 times the money.The best advice I can give on cam selection is look around you and see how cars are performing on the street/strip and dont just get caught out by dyno sheets as we all know how easy it is to make a product look good with bulls**t figures,below is a small list of cams I have tried and used.
Rocket Motorsports (B-D-H Series cams K series very soon)
Skunk2 both early stage1-3 and the new Pro Series
Toda Spec -A-B-C
Crower 99% of there Honda grinds
Blox
Jun
Spoon
Kelford (very big Honda supporters in NZ)
Comp Cams
Zex
Kent Cams
IPS (K Series only)
Now think what you all may but I have no real brand that I use as every cam can be made work with the right combination of parts and each combination is different in parts required to make power in a RPM range suitable to your needs it just never ends so think smart before you do anything and dont just think cams are what is needed there are many other things you need to do before fitting cams and will make better power than just a cam upgrade.
Regards Dyno Dave

**DynoDave** · 08-04-2007 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by aaronng

No it won't. VTEC changeover point depends on your ECU.

Anyone that fits cams without a tunable ECU needs a kick in the bum as you HAVE to move the Vtec point to suit the cams/engine combination and not use the ECU setup for STD cams that is just very dumb

and the reason most guys say the cams they just paid for dont work because they dont finish the whole job because they cant afford it simple DONT DO IT THEN.
Regards Dyno Dave

**fatboyz39** · 08-04-2007 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by DynoDave

the reason most guys say the cams they just paid for dont work because they dont finish the whole job because they cant afford it simple DONT DO IT THEN.
Regards Dyno Dave

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