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  1. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    A mate on clubitr has a set of Alcon 335mm x 28mm rotors with Alcon 4 pot calipers for sale for 2500 bucks and they are direct bolt ons. That would be a better option and have more stopping power than the jdm brembos.
    How do they compare with the Spoon one?
    Im after the Integra (DC5) Type S "Workshop" Service Manuel. help a brother out

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    heat will expand your hose lines therefore reducing brake pressure .... thats why you get braided lines to reduce expansion and maintain brake pressure, hence less brake fade....

    thats why i thought brake pads and braided lines are the first thing to address.

    correct me if im wrong, but aftermarkets calipers only give you more consistency in pushing the pads to the rotors? but then again the type r calipers are good already. what other advantages are there?

  3. #27
    larger calipers also = larger clamping surface area = better braking

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    Quote Originally Posted by EL_DC5 View Post
    It keeps good pressure instead of expanding the hose. reducing fading at high temps. That my theory
    correct me if im wrong here but
    spongy pedal and brake fade are 2 different things.

    brake lines give better brake feel and less spongy pedal at higher brake fluid temps. if your brake pad/caliper/rotor combo is causing fade changing the brake line does jack shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugsee View Post
    larger calipers also = larger clamping surface area = better braking
    if your brake piston and typically caliper body holding the brake fluid is larger your essentially need a bigger brake master cylinder to work effectively with your large calipers.

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    i guess so .... but does that mean bigger and more expensive pads?

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    um...in all honesty, unless you are doing frequent track events, upgrading larger brake calipers is all for show.

    you'll rarely use the full extent of the brake system on the road anyway, unless you're doing something pretty stupid on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EL_DC5 View Post
    How do they compare with the Spoon one?
    Far better than spoon and there is also no clearance isuues when running a +42 offset rim, altho you will have to run 17inch rims to fit them. Pic Attached
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    brake fade = (quoted from wikipedia)
    The reduction of friction termed brake fade is caused when the temperature reaches the "kneepoint" on the temperature-friction curve. [All brake lining is cured under mechanical pressure following a heating & cooling curve, heating the friction material up to 450°F to "cure" (cross-link) the phenolic resin thermoset polymers: There is no melting of the binding resins, because phenolic resins are thermoset, not thermoplastic] In this form of fade, the brake pedal feels firm but there is reduced stopping ability. Fade can also be caused by the brake fluid boiling, with attendant release of compressible gases. In this type of fade, the brake pedal feels "spongy". This condition is worsened when there are contaminants in the fluid, such as water, which most types of brake fluids are prone to absorbing to varying degrees. For this reason brake fluid replacement is standard maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CivicOnBoost View Post
    Far better than spoon and there is also no clearance isuues when running a +42 offset rim, altho you will have to run 17inch rims to fit them. Pic Attached
    can you say why brembo > spoon?

  11. #35
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    http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70142

    DIRT CHEAP for anyone considering SPOON over BREMBO =)
    Offers welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikul_ha View Post
    can you say why brembo > spoon?
    No he's comparing his Alcon to Spoon not brembo vs spoon

    and i agree, Alcon > Spoon

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