Fake FOCAL speaker, Ozhonda member BEWARE !!!

[tron07]

I have seen fake JL Audio components too

[SeverAMV]

some of it isnt fake, just rebadged.
like i bought the yokohama 600w 6x9 speakers on there. im pretty darn sure everyone knows that yokohama dont make speakers, but if you dig around a bit, you'll find out that theyre actually sony 6x9s rated at 300w, except the woofer cone is painted orange, and they've fitted a bigger magnet. it doesnt sound too bad, but the magnet exerts too much force for the woofer cone so the bass sucks.
the powervox amps arent too bad. i managed to pick up a 2600w powervox amp (260wrms) for $30, and it does the job.
dont know what you guys are complaining about, a lot of stuff is made in china nowadays. there quality may not be up to scratch of the japanese stuff, but its getting there.

[jas_kidd32]

How far do these fakes go in terms of emulating the original? Is it all about the cosmetic designs or do they go as far as duplicating the sound quality also?

[SeverAMV]

How far do these fakes go in terms of emulating the original? Is it all about the cosmetic designs or do they go as far as duplicating the sound quality also?

well considering the quality of sony nowadays, theyre pretty darn good at duplicating the sound quality. but much like sony, the bass could be better. at the right gain levels, theyre pretty good, and yokohamas are worth the $25 i spent on them.

[ICACHA]

some of it isnt fake, just rebadged.

No genuine manufacturer re-badges or allows speakers to pass them off as another brand, but there are speaker manufacturers who build speaker for a few different companies that physically look the same (different specs) but are sold to different brands.

Go and see an "Authorised" dealer who sells and installs genuine products with genuine warranty then one wont buy the fakes that are around.

[Vinnie]

as for the sound quality, generally the old saying of 'you get what you pay for' is valid. if u want to get $50 'nameless' speakers off ebay, thats fine. but dont buy $50 'high end' speakers expecting them to be or perform anywhere near as good as the genuine product... authorised dealers and car audio manufacturers deserver better than to have their image tarnished and earnings cut because of people looking for a cheap deal with these shoddy replicas.

[tron07]

How far do these fakes go in terms of emulating the original? Is it all about the cosmetic designs or do they go as far as duplicating the sound quality also?

If you are paying original price for them... then you are screwed...
But I have seen fakes at a fraction of the original's price, so for the price you are paying, its pretty decent.

[destrukshn]

and that's why you buy from a authorised dealer.
lol.

[funkdr]

Are there fake K2p's gettign around to?

[JaCe]

To anyone here who's been to Malaysia, you'll find alot of car parts are replicas/fakes- even shops which sell the real deal, they'll try to flog you the locally made (or Thailand made) fakes since they make much more profit off these.

I think if you wanna buy from Asia, you're probably best off getting someone who knows the area to buy it for you and then shipping it to you themselves rather than relying on eBay or some unknown online site. Also watch out for forum group buys in other countries where you can't follow up.

[ICACHA]

JaCe, what you should be telling people is to buy local not from overseas markets dont you think?

My thoughts and general comments below...

We're toying with the idea of asking customers to get ebay to install their gear. Why should we (specialists) bother with installing gear that people buy off ebay? Or we could start charging more for ebay installs (not a bad idea ) For the specialist market in Australia (tiny as it is) ebay had become a pain in the arse for all of us who own bricks and mortar business'.

In most cases you can buy the local warranted product cheaper than you can the ebay one. Just look around 'if' you know what something actually retails for. Buying something cheap generally means two things, you either got ripped or you got a fake product. If you want something so bad (I've always listened to the old man on this one) save up for it and buy it, quality and the original product aint cheap.

People go out and buy second hand crap (most cases broken) and brand new fakes and then they come to the specialist for installation or free advice (BTW free advice days are on Sundays for us ) for crap they bought on ebay. Like we need to hear how they got ripped off and how unhappy they are, like sucked in for being cheap I say. All ebay want is their commision for the sale at the end of the day nothing else.

I remember when DVD players first came out, they were around the 4k mark. These days you can pick up a DVD player from ALDI for $60 with 12 months warranty. When it brakes you throw it away and buy another one OR you could of bought the quality one in the first place and have it working for many years to come. We as a global society did this to the market whether it be car audio or what ever, we wanted cheap, we got cheap, it broke, we complained... Maybe we should go back to the days of Japanese built products and pay through the nose, but at least you know your getting QUALITY and the real thing that will sound great and last for years?

Australian local specialists keeps hard working Gen-X employed to pay Gen-Y time wasters

Fleebay keeps ebay in business and asia making fakes and you ebay shoppers (generalising) unhappy that you got a fake cheap

For all I care (= a big fat ZERO), people shouldnt come on any forum telling us they got ripped as they bought a fake from ebay or an oline store. Your loss, live with it!

[straightR]

as long as u dont know its a fake it should sound awesome!!!
hahaha

Well said lol.