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Coilovers - Buddy Club N+ vs Tein Type Flex
hey can anyone with experience give a comparison of these coilovers for a euro..
eg. handling, body roll, bumpiness, quality etc... thanks =)
- buddy club n+ coilovers
- tein type flex
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do a search, this been covered before with buddyclub vs tein ss vs tein flex
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N+ = 12 kg/mm front, 6 kg/mm rear
Flex = 10 kg/mm front, 6 kg/mm rear
Both come with an upper pillowball mount, both come with an adjustable lower mount, both are damper adjustable. The Flex is teflon coated, not sure about the N+. The Flex's pillowball mount doesn't last long though and will need a rebuilt or replacement every few years. If you don't replace them, you get a knocking sound when going over irregular surfaces (bumps are fine).
What you want to find out, the bumpiness, body roll and handling can all be adjusted based on the spring and damper rates. Alternatively, the Mono Flex has microvalving and a monotube design, which is better for low speed bumps as well.
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i wanna get these coilovers
where is the cheapest place to get them in Vic?
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Originally Posted by aaronng
N+ = 12 kg/mm front, 6 kg/mm rear
Flex = 10 kg/mm front, 6 kg/mm rear
Both come with an upper pillowball mount, both come with an adjustable lower mount, both are damper adjustable. The Flex is teflon coated, not sure about the N+. The Flex's pillowball mount doesn't last long though and will need a rebuilt or replacement every few years. If you don't replace them, you get a knocking sound when going over irregular surfaces (bumps are fine).
What you want to find out, the bumpiness, body roll and handling can all be adjusted based on the spring and damper rates. Alternatively, the Mono Flex has microvalving and a monotube design, which is better for low speed bumps as well.
THe N+ is urethane pillowball, monotube, dunno if it's microvalving or not, had heard that Tein incur noise when goes over bump, is it truth - y is that - anyway to get rid of its ?
will the n+ be getting same problem? try to find out this for a while,
just a noob question, what's bodyroll? what do u meant by that?
lastly damper adjustable, is that same thing as camber kits? which allow to adjust camber rate? or u'll need additional front - rear camber kits ? friends said n+ - k'sports already come with front camber adjustability but might need to seek for rear camber kits, is this statement truth ???
PLS someone lead me the way to the correct - most suitable coilover for me [had done alots of research on this, but just some questions i ain't clear about its, thankz]
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Originally Posted by oat.iphone
THe N+ is urethane pillowball, monotube, dunno if it's microvalving or not, had heard that Tein incur noise when goes over bump, is it truth - y is that - anyway to get rid of its ?
will the n+ be getting same problem? try to find out this for a while,
The pillowball mounts will eventually make noise. Same for Tein, same for N+.
Originally Posted by oat.iphone
just a noob question, what's bodyroll? what do u meant by that?
Means the body of the car leans to side when you corner hard.
Originally Posted by oat.iphone
lastly damper adjustable, is that same thing as camber kits? which allow to adjust camber rate? or u'll need additional front - rear camber kits ? friends said n+ - k'sports already come with front camber adjustability but might need to seek for rear camber kits, is this statement truth ???
Damper is the part of the shock that absorbs the movement when you go over bumps. It is different to camber.
You won't have front camber adjustability with the Euro. That feature is only available on the DC5R because of the suspension design (Macpherson strut).
And yes, you should get a rear camber kit because it changes very drastically as you lower the car The front camber kit is optional because front camber doesn't change much when you lower the Euro.
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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rofl ig30 if you ever want to feel what tein monoflex or N+ just ask one of us or come to one of the euro m33ts in the future.
i can vouch that tein SS and BC N+ are more comfy then tein MFP.
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Originally Posted by aaronng
The pillowball mounts will eventually make noise. Same for Tein, same for N+.
Means the body of the car leans to side when you corner hard.
Damper is the part of the shock that absorbs the movement when you go over bumps. It is different to camber.
You won't have front camber adjustability with the Euro. That feature is only available on the DC5R because of the suspension design (Macpherson strut).
And yes, you should get a rear camber kit because it changes very drastically as you lower the car The front camber kit is optional because front camber doesn't change much when you lower the Euro.
oh, i'd got that on mine too when i corner hard sometime on stockie, so once lower the car, this problem will occur right? anyway to prevent its right eg. strut bar or sway bar?
so u r saying when lower the car, the front camber rate wont change much but the rear will, hence will need to buy rear camber kits? am i correct? correct me plsz
what does it meant by damper adjustable ? is that something like spring rate? eg. 10 front n 7 rear seem to be the most comfy setting for euro, am i right?
many thankz
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Originally Posted by oat.iphone
oh, i'd got that on mine too when i corner hard sometime on stockie, so once lower the car, this problem will occur right? anyway to prevent its right eg. strut bar or sway bar?
You can use a stiffer sway bar to reduce bodyroll.
Originally Posted by oat.iphone
so u r saying when lower the car, the front camber rate wont change much but the rear will, hence will need to buy rear camber kits? am i correct? correct me plsz
That's right
Originally Posted by oat.iphone
what does it meant by damper adjustable ? is that something like spring rate? eg. 10 front n 7 rear seem to be the most comfy setting for euro, am i right?
It is different to spring rate, but it does affect comfort and some degree of stiffness
many thankz[/QUOTE]
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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[QUOTE=aaronng;2187923]The pillowball mounts will eventually make noise. Same for Tein, same for N+.
so is it better off without pillowball mount? therefore it wont cost any noise but had read thread said, the coilover will need pillowball no matter what eg. tein basic n SS doesnt come with upper pillowball mount hence have to remove from stockie to add on
what kinda noise does it make n is it loud like noticable? also it occur on just when goes over bump or just all time while riding the car
thankz
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