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k-pro who has it?
as titles asks, who has k-pro here, wanna get some feedback on these ecu's,
thinking of using it in my ep3
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One of the best ECU for a K-series engine. Easy to tune...
Im sure it will be an good upgrade for you!
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i tried K100 with my K20A and the difference was huge. that was untuned as well.. i use a mugen N1 ecu and its better than the K100 IMO.
But a tuned K-pro and im pretty sure you have one of the best upgrades for a K-series motor you can buy
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Originally Posted by qstoria
i tried K100 with my K20A and the difference was huge. that was untuned as well.. i use a mugen N1 ecu and its better than the K100 IMO.
But a tuned K-pro and im pretty sure you have one of the best upgrades for a K-series motor you can buy
WTF What are you talking about.? Who the hell buys a K100/Pro and runs it untuned, unless it has been flashed with some kind of base program.
The mugen N1 is specifically tuned to mugen products. K100/Pro units are designed to be used to tune and optimise what modification you have! Obviously untuned would be next to useless! IMO
Cost wise, Im sure that a K100 tuned costs less than the price of a N1 and the K100/PRO are completely tunable!
K100 and PRO are the same product, except that the PRO has an external USB port and software for user to use and muckaround with. Not recommended if you dont know what you are doing! The 100 is only tunable by dealer.
Correct me if I am wrong!
Oh yes, to the original question, theres usually a good fat increase in power in the mid range bringing the K20 to life.
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i didnt buy it. I ran it untuned for my exact setup but it had been tuned for one quite similar. should have specified that but does that make sense now?
as for the price. cost of ecu plus tuning and there isnt much in it between the two. i went with the mugen as i was offered it at a very reasonable price.
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I ran kpro with my K setup. Must be the easiet ecu I've played around with. Even if you don't get a tuner to fine tune it asap then you have base maps to run which are included in the program. I ran a base map for a K20 with intake headers and exhaust and it was pretty awesome. You notice the difference straight away and even a bigger difference when you get it tuned properly.
JdmYard, Team POV!
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I got Kpro on all our K swap cars.
the results speaks for it self.
From hondata.com
Main features:
- Fits inside the ECU
- Made in USA
- USB connection for speed and compatibility
- KManager Windows based software for parameter & table editing, calibration uploading and datalogging.
- Many built in calibrations for common engine combinations
- Built in datalogging to a laptop
- On board datalogging memory (2 MB memory, 10-110 minutes datalogging)
- Adjustment for different sized injectors, with overall fuel trim.
- Configurable for any MAP sensor (to 5 Bar and above)
- TPS based table lookup for ITBs
- Engine protection from over boost and lean protection.
- Expanded fuel and ignition tables, both in rpm and load, to 60 lbs boost and 11,000 rpm (these are not the upper limits)
- Launch control with anti-lag
- Three multi purpose outputs for nitrous control or similar
- Supports lambda tracing from the stock wideband o2
- PWM output for boost control
KManager editing software features:
- High and low speed 16 x 20 ignition and fuel tables for correct VTEC tuning
- Injector size fuel trim
- Fuel trim for starting, throttle tip in and individual cylinder trim
- Rev limiter with fuel cut
- Launch control with anti-lag
- Adjustable VTEC window with load and throttle control
- Adjustable idle speed
- MAP sensor type and calibration
- Adjustable boost cut with hot and cold settings
- Closed loop control
- Air temperature compensation
- Fuel and ignition correction based on gear
- Closed loop
- Three general purpose outputs for nitrous control, quad boost control or similar
- On board datalogging trigger conditions
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can any one tell me the price difference between the k100 and kpro? not talking bout tune. just the product. just want to see how much more $$ for the USB capability
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$400 difference in price between k100 and k-pro, same features minus the fact the k-pro has USB the k100 doesn’t.
Prices are here
http://www.hondatech.com.au/forum/sh...=3072#post3072
if your on a tight budget get the k100
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It all comes down to what you want to do with your car!
If you are modding it constantly and changing things the KPRO would be the go! and ofcourse, mucking around with the tune yourself!
Otherwise if you want a ECU to tune with what you have and dont care about playing with the ECU, then the K100 is all you need.
IMO, if you are paying someone to tune your car on the dyno, you should be mucking around with the tune yourself. Unless you race or track your car and are using the datalogging features.
Sum it up.......if you wanna set and forget, save your money and get K100.
If you want to playing around with the tune get the KPRO!
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Kpro enabled to do you data logging + ability to check what problems you got with your engine sensors
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Originally Posted by EG5
Kpro enabled to do you data logging + ability to check what problems you got with your engine sensors
Thats right. In the long run, KPRO might actually save you time and money if you ever run into any problems. It's alot more convenient to have if you want to do some minor or major changes urself instead of calling in a pro which costs $$$
JdmYard, Team POV!
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