B18C7 turbo.....dont use AVO.....read on....

[IEVAQ8]

i got some info guys...............
finally spoke to AVO today, and let them know the prob im having, they put me on to there tuner rob here in melb, and he advised em that we are running too much timing, i told him that most boosted hondas love timing with boost up in the vtec range and that we have discovered that the rear housing is too small for the type r application...............

he said nah mate................ur running way to much timing, i said well, on 8psi and 20degrees timing, it is detonating its head off, and 20degrees is only 4 degrees higher than stock..............he said that when the do there turbo hondas they drop timing to 14degrees and sometimes lower, and i would be looking at making about 145kw at the wheels..................

i literally laughed at him on the phone...........lol

anyways..................i'll be pulling off the turbo hopefully in the next week or so and have the machine/hiflow work done and back for tuning to see what we can come up with.............

again, thanks guys for ur input and sugestions...........

again, i am not slaggin/bagging avo, i am just stating what they told me and the issues im having....................

[whtcrx]

Not exactly

If you're advancing the Dizzy AND adding timing on the fuel maps, then this is not good.

otherwise, what you're saying is correct and +20deg timing over the stock 14deg of the dizzy is OK, but I wouldn't go anymore.

[fatboyz39]

who is tuning your car ievaq8?

[IEVAQ8]

Not exactly

If you're advancing the Dizzy AND adding timing on the fuel maps, then this is not good.

otherwise, what you're saying is correct and +20deg timing over the stock 14deg of the dizzy is OK, but I wouldn't go anymore.

no offence.......but are you a tuner???????????
coz my tuiner, has years of experience and knowledge......................in tuning boosted hondas, with stock and modified engines

who is tuning your car ievaq8?

u knwo who it is.....................im in melb...so.....................

[krogoth]

lol, this better not become a typical shit slinging contest

[IEVAQ8]

lol, this better not become a typical shit slinging contest

yeh i hope not..................
this thread was just an eye opener for those looking at using the avo bolt on kit.......that i have had dramas with...........

[DLO01]

Avo do an ultra safe tune up. They only promise like you said 135-145kw for B series.

They are not like our tunners who safely push the limits of these motors and get much higher figures.

im not sure deanno, i only got it from them around 5months ago or so...........whats the difference between old and new kit????????????

The older kits have a smaller turbo, and other variences. The new kit, which has been around for a long time now, has a GT28R and you can upgrade to a larger rear.

[IEVAQ8]

Avo do an ultra safe tune up. They only promise like you said 135-145kw for B series.

They are not like our tunners who safely push the limits of these motors and get much higher figures.

thats exactly right.............

The older kits have a smaller turbo, and other variences. The new kit, which has been around for a long time now, has a GT28R and you can upgrade to a larger rear.

i have the new kit, and 0.86 rear housing..........but still too small for our fire breathign vtec b18c7's........lol

[Lukezen27]

no offence.......but are you a tuner???????????
coz my tuiner, has years of experience and knowledge......................in tuning boosted hondas, with stock and modified engines



u knwo who it is.....................im in melb...so.....................

If that's the case he sould know that +20deg is a bit much bro...

I'm only running +5-10deg max, just over stock in fact on my boosted D

I know B's can take more timing than D's but +20 seems a lot to me..

Hope you have aftermarket head studs instlalled?

[IEVAQ8]

If that's the case he sould know that +20deg is a bit much bro...

I'm only running +5-10deg max, just over stock in fact on my boosted D

I know B's can take more timing than D's but +20 seems a lot to me..

Hope you have aftermarket head studs instlalled?

how much boost you running????????? maybe u got low timing to compensate for the higher boost your running??

he does no what he is doing..........and is happy running above 24degrees, ofcourse, you cant just det it somewhere andf thats it, where ever the motor response the best, the timing will be adjusted to suit

but yeh i could definatly retard the timing and just run more boost.........same shit......................

head studs?????????
the motor is dead stock....top to bottom...............

[Lukezen27]

how much boost you running????????? maybe u got low timing to compensate for the higher boost your running??

he does no what he is doing..........and is happy running above 24degrees, ofcourse, you cant just det it somewhere andf thats it, where ever the motor response the best, the timing will be adjusted to suit

but yeh i could definatly retard the timing and just run more boost.........same shit......................

head studs?????????
the motor is dead stock....top to bottom...............

Only running 10psi man

Yeah head studs are to stop your head Gasket blowing from detention..

I'm running ARP Studs with the rest stock..

[IEVAQ8]

Only running 10psi man

Yeah head studs are to stop your head Gasket blowing from detention..

I'm running ARP Studs with the rest stock..

like i said, dont get me wrong and dont take offence, i have great faith in my tuner, and he knows what he is doing...........

i will post the outcome once finialised