NEW 2009 Euro Luxury Auto Pinging

[buddah51au]

As concerned as everyone seems to be with this problem i am sure it will be rectified one way or another. Just remember the fix has to come from Honda Japan. Honda Australia's hands are tied until the parent company finds the solution.

[tony1234]

I mentioned the above on this forum earlier this year, but from the replies I got, it made me sound like I didn't know what I was talking about....

I have mentioned this to HA and they also thought I didn't know what I was talking about.

I have since spoken with a number of engineers and they have said that without testing it is hard to prove, however it is not far fetched, putting it simply, there is probably too much heat in the head/exhaust/cat and it is transferring over to the combustion area of the head....

This is quite possible.If so i wonder what the fix will be!!

[VIDSEURO]

This is quite possible.If so i wonder what the fix will be!!

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***** Rec'd today Wednesday*****

Dear Mr XXXXXX, your recent e-mail to Honda Australia has been passed to my attention and response. We are concerned that you are unhappy following the recent work carried out to your vehicle at Capital Honda as our representative was satisfied with your vehicle following the work that was carried out.

Feedback from customers who have received the countermeasure rectification has indicated further improvement after operating their vehicle for some time. This is because the relearn aspect of the engine management system adapts to particular customer driving styles and conditions.

Therefore, we recommend that you allow sufficient time for your vehicle to relearn and following several tank refills of premium fuel
(95RON or higher). This process is important to allow the engine management system of your vehicle to readjust to your individual driving style and conditions.

After following this advice you are still not satisfied with the engine operating noise level, then we would be pleased to arrange for our technical specialist to visit Canberra to reassess your vehicle at a mutually convenient time.
In the meanwhile, we will await your further advice.

Regards
Joe Gelsi
Customer Relations Manager
Honda Australia Pty Ltd
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I think this is a good approach, and i will do as they say...

[VIDSEURO]

BUDDAH's comment below

Getting back to the "Pinging" problem we are having with our CU2 autos, I don't know how much it varies from 1 vehicle to the next, all i can say is that while I do have the problem, it is very intermittent & I can go hundreds of kms between hearing the noise. Is this because i tend to drive with economy in mind & don't give the car a hard time too often? Impossible to answer, but a possibility.
It would be interesting to hear other thoughts on this.
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Its absolutely correct that economy is determined by driver habits.

Namely hard acceleration, floggin through the gears (thats my expression) will impact on what you get out of the tank.
With my euro i ran in the motor very carefully and even after 4,000 km's the
engine appeared to be tight (my view)
Anyhow the motor has loosened up heaps and as a passionate driver i like to
get the rpm's to 5000 and i havent been passed that.
Im very happy with my economy and look forward to posting some highway
figures next time im out of ACT...

[loki78]

Anyhow the motor has loosened up heaps and as a passionate driver i like to get the rpm's to 5000 and i havent been passed that.

What??..how is it possible that one man can have so much will power!!

I originally thought I didn't have the pinging issue with my Euro but that turned out to be wishful thinking. I've done around 3000+km now and I started noticing it around 2000km. It could have occurred earlier but I just never noticed it. At this point, i would say i have a very mild case of engine pinging because I can only hear it when I have my radio off and even when I can hear it, it's quite soft. As it doesn't get in the way of my driving pleasure, I probably will leave it until I hear more positive results from the fixed offered by HA.

[buddah51au]

BUDDAH's comment below

Getting back to the "Pinging" problem we are having with our CU2 autos, I don't know how much it varies from 1 vehicle to the next, all i can say is that while I do have the problem, it is very intermittent & I can go hundreds of kms between hearing the noise. Is this because i tend to drive with economy in mind & don't give the car a hard time too often? Impossible to answer, but a possibility.
It would be interesting to hear other thoughts on this.
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Its absolutely correct that economy is determined by driver habits.

Namely hard acceleration, floggin through the gears (thats my expression) will impact on what you get out of the tank.
With my euro i ran in the motor very carefully and even after 4,000 km's the
engine appeared to be tight (my view)
Anyhow the motor has loosened up heaps and as a passionate driver i like to
get the rpm's to 5000 and i havent been passed that.
Im very happy with my economy and look forward to posting some highway
figures next time im out of ACT...

I still like to have fun from time to time & on several occasions have seen the high side of 7000RPM. On 1 occasion it seen 4,300 in top, those with CU2 auto's can work that 1 out.
So Basically i drive with economy in mind, but on the odd occasion ......

[evil R34]

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Yo evil....
unsure about what you are meaning by higher compression, "thats not news"
and why would the fix get it to ping once then stop...
Dude we are so lucky there isnt a f***in brass band under the bonnet
of the famous CU2.
If there was i'd be givint it back and heading to wollies for a packet of razer blades

well my thinking is with the software patch and new knock sensor (put in as "the fix") allow the "ping" 2 occure but then its retarded by the software/knock sensor so i only hear it once

[buddah51au]

I know on this page we have spoken a little about the economy of our CU2's. After refilling today (20 days between refills) I am wondering how far it would be possible to travel on 1 tank of fuel given the right conditions. I have just refilled after 920km on 1 tank, with the computer telling me 103km till empty. filling completely until fuel was visible in the filler neck took 62.87 Lts, which works out to be 6.83L/100km, unbelievable but accurate.

This also brings up the question of what is the true capacity of the fuel tank, supposedly it is 65 Lts, but i now suspect the filler neck holds an additional 5 or 6 liters given those figures. I am also certain that given the right road conditions traveling 1000 km on a single tank is not beyond belief, depending of course on the accuracy of the trip computer function of distance till empty. I will certainly put this to the test if I ever make the trip to Sydney again.

[VIDSEURO]

This also brings up the question of what is the true capacity of the fuel tank, supposedly it is 65 Lts, but i now suspect the filler neck holds an additional 5 or 6 liters given those figures. I am also certain that given the right road conditions traveling 1000 km on a single tank is not beyond belief, depending of course on the accuracy of the trip computer function of distance till empty. I will certainly put this to the test if I ever make the trip to Sydney again.[/QUOTE]


Hi Buddah

Mate i would be very interested in any figures you may have for highway cycle.
With the manul once you stick in 6th the euro just glides.
Of course Honda are renowned for producing good economy cars...

[denot]

Hi Buddah

Mate i would be very interested in any figures you may have for highway cycle.
With the manul once you stick in 6th the euro just glides.
Of course Honda are renowned for producing good economy cars...

Buddah + MAnual Euro = The end of Hybrid & Diesel Cars...

[buddah51au]

Buddah + MAnual Euro = The end of Hybrid & Diesel Cars...

As much as i would prefer a manual Denot, I have no feeling in my left leg at all, so using a clutch becomes somewhat awkward.

As for the end of diesels, well i wouldn't mind 1 for a week.....how low could i get that......lol

[primetimex]

While on the subject of fuel economy and capacity of CU2 - does anyone here notice that the car is a lot more sluggish and heavy on a full tank of fuel? Once the fuel runs down and especially towards half full and less, the car becomes more "livelier" to drive and does not feel so heavy?

As for the pinging problem, I only hear it every now and then and most of the time I don't hear it when I have the stereo on.