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    Quote Originally Posted by didz View Post
    thats stupid. they are both good cars and are different rides respecitvely.
    no its not stupid. you are exactly right in saying they have different rides. if you want a quick car for the track or drag strip then the type s shoudln't be your first choice. taking the weight out of it, fitting recaros etc is all in vain if you ask me. the type s is a soft version that honda has built to cash in on a market for the people who dont want to live with the type R because its just not quite suitable for many on a day to day basis.

    if you are serious and want a fast honda for the track or drag dont use a type s.. Sell the type s, buy a type r and then have some fun with the change.

    i guess it depends how serious EL DC5 is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tofu View Post
    i think you might be getting lsd and traction control mixed up.

    an LSD limits the slipage in the wheel when one of the driven wheels is not in direct contact with the ground, not adding traction to the wheel that's in contact with with the ground. if that does happen, then the car will spin out.

    correcto! doing an assignment as we speak on diffs for uni. LSD stands for limited slip diff = limits the slipage ^^! lol omg so technical haha. basically sends more torque to the side with more traction. Not the maximum amount of torque, just some. the amount of torque depends on the LSD, or rather the springs inside the lsd. one wheel will never get 100% of the torque.

    Open diffs are gay because they always try and balance out the torque on both sides.

    so if you got stiff ass sussy and u go up a driveway and one wheel lifts up in the air, the torque required to spin that wheel is very very very small.

    that same amount of torque is applied to the other side, so your car doesnt move. gayyy. happens to me all the time. stepping on the brake slightly gives a bit of friction to the wheel stuck in the air and thus more torque!

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    Quote Originally Posted by qstoria View Post
    no its not stupid. you are exactly right in saying they have different rides. if you want a quick car for the track or drag strip then the type s shoudln't be your first choice. taking the weight out of it, fitting recaros etc is all in vain if you ask me. the type s is a soft version that honda has built to cash in on a market for the people who dont want to live with the type R because its just not quite suitable for many on a day to day basis.

    if you are serious and want a fast honda for the track or drag dont use a type s.. Sell the type s, buy a type r and then have some fun with the change.

    i guess it depends how serious EL DC5 is?
    I agree with everything you have just said, just not about buying the wrong car.

    I am so fkn angry about being in australia and getting jibbed on the cars down here. Its bullshit.

    Getting back on topic, weight reduction is difficult because u gotta weigh up if u want comfort of the interior or not.

    Get lighter wheels, CF replacement parts and strip the boot. Another thing to think about is a lighter flywheel and full stainless or titanium exhaust, so much lighter than the standard mild steel ones.
    Last edited by didz; 11-06-2007 at 10:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by didz View Post
    I am so fkn angry about being in australia and getting jibbed on the cars down here. Its bullshit.

    if we had JDM 162kw dc5 R then there would be no questions asked

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    Quote Originally Posted by qstoria View Post
    if we had JDM 162kw dc5 R then there would be no questions asked
    no shit. the price would be justified instead of the 44k price tag for a 15sec coupe with shit brakes.
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    not that hard to get a k20a2 up to 162kw. hence if one is serious about drag or track. you buy a type r

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    i know but its more than the engine dude. its the brakes and exhaust system as well. The engine also has better cams
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    Quote Originally Posted by qstoria View Post
    not that hard to get a k20a2 up to 162kw. hence if one is serious about drag or track. you buy a type r
    Australian Type-R ain't the same as the J-spec'd version. Handling package and brakes are inferior.

    I agree with the other guys, AUDM Type R is a disappointment, Honda took the easy way out here rather than giving the enthuasiast base the car they wanted.

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    guys, this topic is about WEIGHT REDUCTION>

    You want to make a thread about AUDM vs JDM , post up in the noob forum.

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    i really think one should have driven both the TypeS and the TypeR for a longer period of time before you can really make a judgement on which is better for what.
    I have been around and owned DC5 since they were released in 2001-2002 and I can safely say, after doing suspension mods on the TypeS, you won't notice the difference between the R and the S.
    And to be quite honest, the weight is debate is redundant. You're not really going to feel the difference between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tofu View Post
    i really think one should have driven both the TypeS and the TypeR for a longer period of time before you can really make a judgement on which is better for what.
    I have been around and owned DC5 since they were released in 2001-2002 and I can safely say, after doing suspension mods on the TypeS, you won't notice the difference between the R and the S.
    And to be quite honest, the weight is debate is redundant. You're not really going to feel the difference between the two.
    I agree. If anything u would feel more power in the type S because it is a quicker car, even if it is heavier.

    What is the weight of the type S anyway?
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    according to Redbook
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