Motor Magazine (September 07)

**didz** · 03-09-2007 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Jaso

Epica is only an Australian car because it wears a holden badge on the front of it. In all reality it is a Daewoo - not Australian.

may be so but it doesnt change anything i've said, does it.

**terryansimon** · 03-09-2007 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by aaronng

From what I remember, if you crash at 100km/h into a solid concrete wall and your car's passenger cell survives, you still die from internal injury (this was from Top Gear's test of a Smart car into a concrete wall).

Fifth Gear, actually. I think.

good explanation, by the way

**blk05gli** · 03-09-2007 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by tony1234

Yeah that figures,Motor mag seem to love anything Holden.As Eurodude said the koreans have improved but i wouldn't rush out and buy any of their cars just yet.Comparing the Euro with a Daewoo what a joke.

thats why I only spend my hard earned cash on top gear magazine from the UK. all brands, other than aston martin

, are treated equally.

**Jaso** · 03-09-2007 05:01 PM

Epica is only an Australian car because it wears a holden badge on the front of it. In all reality it is a Daewoo - not Australian.
may be so but it doesnt change anything i've said, does it.

Well actually in the vast majority of cases Motor/Wheels don't favour Korean made Holden's. Maybe they favor the Australian ones because they are good, aren't they.

**tony1234** · 03-09-2007 05:23 PM

Give me a japanese made car over an Aust.made car anyday.(mind you they are improving)

**blk05gli** · 06-09-2007 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by tony1234

Give me a japanese made car over an Aust.made car anyday.(mind you they are improving)

the australian makers did have a lot of help in the past from the japanese:
commodore/lexcen
camry/apollo
nova/corolla
astra/pulsar (remember the HSV SV1800 !!

)

**Vinnie** · 06-09-2007 10:30 PM

i find the fact that all this argument spawned from people being outraged that the euro dropped a single star rating quite humorous. there are multiple factors that could have caused this, not least of which it is an ageing design. the fact that is was rated at 5 stars in the first place should be seen as a massive achievement on its own.

then there was a whole lot of discussion about the epica which, if anyone has noticed, isnt rated at all (most likely due to its 'epically' crap performance figures).

now its just another jap/aust car debate...

**aaronng** · 06-09-2007 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Vinnie

i find the fact that all this argument spawned from people being outraged that the euro dropped a single star rating quite humorous. there are multiple factors that could have caused this, not least of which it is an ageing design. the fact that is was rated at 5 stars in the first place should be seen as a massive achievement on its own.

then there was a whole lot of discussion about the epica which, if anyone has noticed, isnt rated at all (most likely due to its 'epically' crap performance figures).

now its just another jap/aust car debate...

I reckon it dropped 1 star because it doesn't offer curtain airbags across the range like what Mazda does with the Mazda6 now.